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History Drag cars in motion.......picture thread.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. loudbang
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    All from 1964

    A pair of Altereds. Come on who can name them, the ford is easy the fiat not too easy.


    Altereds 1964.JPG


    Bill Burke & Mel Chastian "Orange Ford" Blown Ford Galaxie


    Bill Burke & Mel Chastian Orange ford Galaxie.JPG


    Bob Panella Willys B/G pickup


    Bob Panella Willys BGpickup.JPG


    Caption says "Fran Hernandez" but looks like Sachs& sons comet is Fran the driver?


    Caption says Fran Hernandez but looks like Sachs& sons comet 1.JPG


    Again Fran captioned as driver


    Caption says Fran Hernandez but looks like Sachs& sons comet this one says driver 2.JPG



    Dick Montoya B/G Anglia Wheelie


    Dick Montoya BG Anglia Wheelie.JPG
     
  2. loudbang
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    Early Wild Willie with Harrell & Muse


    Early Willie with Harrell &  Muse.JPG


    Frye Brothers dual Nailhead dragster smoken them up


    Frye Brothers dual Nailhead dragster.JPG


    GAB altered in 1964


    GAB altered 1964.JPG


    Jack Williams Dragster with chute out while almost off track


    Jack Williams Dragster with chute out.JPG



    Jim & Oeda Mcmurtrey 1960 comet altered note driver in back seat


    Jim & Oeda Mcmurtrey 1960 comet altered note driver in back seat.JPG


    Unknown nitro burning SB chevy dragster


    Unknow nitro buring SB chevy dragster.JPG


    Wheels up Masters and Richer Hemi Dragster


    Wheels up Masters and Richer Dragster.JPG
     
  3. rooman
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    Thanks mate. I thought that was him but a quick search did not bring up any photo evidence and I was trying to not look stupid. :)

    Roo
     
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  4. rooman
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    This is the car that later became Aussie Ash Marshall's Scorcher.

    Roo
     
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  5. rooman
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    [​IMG]

    First guess would be the early big block version of the Mondello and Matsubara car but the chute pack and push bar don't match any photo reference that I found.

    Roo
     
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  7. 296ardun
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    It's Jim Dunn in the Dunn and Velasco altered, running fuel, though it started out as a gas burner. First yellow, they later painted it orange.
     
  8. rooman
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    And later when the Fiat was a little used up in the chassis department put the blown small block engine in a dragster and went to Indy for the Nats with a small amount of backing from Drag Racing Magazine.
    They had some engine issues at Indy and Henry used a hammer and chisel to cut down the domes on the pistons.

    Roo
     
  9. DDDenny
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    Roo
    I have heard reference to this before (maybe you), man, I wish somebody had this on video. Talk about a title opportunity, "The Stone Age Man".
     
  10. loudbang
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    What an AWESOME find. I have been a life long Blue Oval FORD fan and had never heard of him or this great story. A must read for ford racing fans.
     
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  11. 296ardun
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    Fran Hernandez was more of a dry lakes guy, but apparently the rivalry that started out around the Edlebrock shop led to the match race at the fabled "first drag race" at Goleta. Tom Cobb was running snow tires to try and get more traction, which backfired as they just spun. Hernandez was out of the gate first and won the race, then quickly attached the coupe to the tow car and left before anyone could discover that he was running nitro. Here are pictures of the two participants:
    FranHernandez_12_700.jpg
    Fran Hernandez

    Tom-Cobbs-back-cover-El-Mirage-meet-program.jpg

    Tom kept this car for years and drove it on the street. Both participants have since passed away.
     
  12. D.N.D.
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    The Sacks & Sons Comet was Jack Christmans first exhibition tire smoking racer, using a all steel body and long pipes out the back and boy did it sound great

    Also he was the pilot

    DND
     
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  13. 296ardun
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    Boy did it ever, I remember seeing it at Riverside, unforgettable!
     
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    It was cool at the ' Beach ' too with stands so close to let the pipes sound off
     
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  15. It sounded a lot like the 554 and the Speed Sport roadster. You won't hear those sounds again with long pipes being long gone on fuel cars. The only sound better than those cars was the Belmont Sanchez Studebaker on the long course at Bonneville. Clark Cagle's blown fuel 454" hemi, with pipes out the back, running 5 miles, gave me chills. The thought still does!
     
  16. D.N.D.
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    Yep it sure did Dean, and Markley's tank going into hi-gear and spinning the rears was a pretty cool thing to see and hear too in 63'

    289 mph with a little Dodge 255 hemi ' priceless '

    DND
     
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  17. RichFox
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    This thing don't sound all that bad when it's on a march. popped a burst panel this morning. Should be back at it when it cools down a little. ResizedImage951366081179836.jpg
     
  18. D.N.D.
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    Nothing like a blown fueler going 5 miles on the salt at full tilt, that it heaven for us gearheads
     
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    I remember it well at Bonneville, the other car whose sound I never forgot was the Summers Brothers rear engined modified roadster, so loud that it caused the grille on my fathers 59 Chevy to buzz, 4 miles away. Same long pipes out the back.


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  25. jnaki
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    Hello,
    I am wondering if anyone knows which FED, did Danny Ongais drive when he first started at Lions? Was it a very low angled version of a Chassis Research rail? The time period would have been 58-60.
    Thanks,
    Jnaki
     
  26. 296ardun
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    Jnaki. I'm not sure that Danny Ongais was in the states that early, I first remember him in '62, when he ran the Winternationals in the Dragmaster Hawaii car that Roland Leong owned. I do remember the Chassis Research car that you mention, with really low roll bars. If I remember right, Bobby Tapia drove, think it was Tapia and Hoffman. My pictures are in my now-shrink-wrapped PC, but I will see if I can't find a picture of the Tapia and Hoffman car. It ran in the late'50s, so would have been in the period you asked about.
     
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    Bobby Tapia.jpg
    Was this the one you were asking about? This is the Tapia and Hoffman car
     
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  28. jnaki
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    Hey Dave,
    Thanks for those photos. The Tapia Bros FED looks the same (in 59-60 they had red wheels), but at the end of this video, there is one that I thought was Danny Ongais's first dragster drives racing against the Tapia Bros.
    Thanks,
    Jnaki
     
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  29. 296ardun
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    Dean is exactly right, Zane could mash the throttle much harder than could the Chrysler guys, and he won a lot of races doing so, but tire and clutch technology ultimately caught up with him. He crashed the car at Lions, and Chet Herbert, who actually owned the dragster, drove up beside the wreckage, rolled down the window of his Chrysler push car, and called out to Zane, who was just getting out of the car, "hey, do you want a Chrysler now?" The answer was yes, as both realized that the game was now horsepower and not lightness.
    Jnaki, That Chassis Research car is definitely Tapia & Hoffman. I played the video back and forth several times, and think that the car he is racing is Eldon Dye's Cadillac powered dragster, which once had a Bantam pickup cab body. Eldon took off the body to race as a dragster, and this looks like his. I am guessing that this is sometime between '58 and '60. (I found a photo of the coupe but not one without the body) ... anyone else.

    I double checked and I was right, Danny Ongais did not come to the mainland until '62, when he drove Roland Leong's Dragmaster car at the Winternationals. Thanks for posting these and the other videos you have put up, the footage is priceless, and brings back so many memories!!
     
  30. 35touring
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    Looks like the creek at Bristol Dragway, Bristol, TN.
     
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