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Dana 44, how strong?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by gettingreasy, Mar 28, 2004.

  1. gettingreasy
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    I know some folks use them in 4 wheelin but what about an A with a mild SBC and a glide? It's outta a mid 50's F-100 if that helps any. What kinda gears are we talkin, 4.10s?
    -Jesse
     
  2. Zeke
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    They are about as strong as a 10 bolt. They saw duty under supercharged stude v8s so they can be too weak.
     
  3. In the mid 80's I put one in a 78 Datsun with a sbc/turbo 400 combo.I had a locker unit in it.Drove it to and from Texas a time or two,drove it HARD,and never had a problem.At that time there wasn't a whole lot of choices for gearing though.I'd say the 44's are like anything,tough,but not indestructible.
     
  4. Munson
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    Jesse, I know a guy that has one for my year truck that is a Dana 45. I think the 45's were weaker though. Deyo and I went over his place to look at that 283 a while back.
    It would be Cheap
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  5. bulletproof1
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    the 44 isnt a bad axle for a lite car or truck ,there are gears from 2:73 -5:38 lots of locker and posi choices ,the early ones had course spline axles that arent as strong as the later 30 spline shafts.one of the better ones is out of a 90s ford explorer nice dics brakes and come with 5x 4 1/2 bolt pattern lowkar makes a nice e-brake cable kit that fits there backing plate.i had a 44 under the front of my jeep running 39'' tires ,it heald up ok. but i did break it.
     
  6. Bugman
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    How does it compair in strength to a 9" Ford?
     
  7. timebandit
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    I might be wrong, but I think the center section in a 60`s to 80`s Jaguar IRS is Dana 44. Lots of hi perf. small block street rods with that setup.
     
  8. Spedley
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    Dana 44's are fairly strong, guys seem to like em for 4x4's. They hold up to a fair bit of bashing and big tires. I think they're comparable to a 9" in strength. By the way, a '90's explorer had an 8.8" not a dana.
     
  9. Zeke
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    Look under just about any AMC car and you'll find a Dana 44. including the 401 Gremlins.
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I think they're comparable to a 9" in strength.

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    Dana 44 is a good rear, but I don't know that I'd go as far as saying they're comparable to a 9" Ford. I'd put them between a GM 10-bolt & 12-bolt in strength...

    Good rear, parts availability is excellent, plenty of ratios & lockers - only downside, it's a hotchkiss-style & not salisbury (in other words, you gotta do the work in the car rather than on the bench like 8/9" Ford or 8-3/4 mopar).

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  11. gettingreasy
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    I remember someone else sayin that Jags used the 44 center section. Cool thanks guys, I didn't know they had that many different applications for them. 401 Gremlins, thats a fuckin car right there!
    -Jesse
     
  12. macs55
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    I have one in my 55' ford panel and have had no problem. A couple of my friends have the same one with built up motors and have had no problem either. Mine came stock with 3:92 gears, they also come with 4:11 and 3:70 I think.
     
  13. Mutt
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    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    I think they're comparable to a 9" in strength.

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    Dana 44 is a good rear, but I don't know that I'd go as far as saying they're comparable to a 9" Ford. I'd put them between a GM 10-bolt & 12-bolt in strength...

    Good rear, parts availability is excellent, plenty of ratios & lockers - only downside, it's a hotchkiss-style & not salisbury (in other words, you gotta do the work in the car rather than on the bench like 8/9" Ford or 8-3/4 mopar).

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    Ernie - you've got it backwards - Hotchkiss is the removable center (9in) and Salisbury is 12 bolt style.

    Mutt
     
  14. I'm running a Dana 44 locker with 3.92:1 gears in my 60 GMC powered by a healthy Cadillac...they are strong reliable and durable rear axles,plus they look cool better than a 9"
     
  15. I put one in the Hupp. I'll have to get back to you in a few years to let you know if it holds up.
     
  16. dixiedog
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    IMHO Dana 44's are great for a hotrod, they aren't as strong as a 9" but do handle a lot of power and stronger than a 10 bolt. They are the most sought after in the JEEP crowd, my son has a 320HP 304 in his 74 CJ5 with 12" x 32" and a T150 3 spd, it will carry the left front tire and has been abused in the woods for 3 years now with no problems.

    Check the spider gears for wear as I have exploded them before doing a 3grand drop with 12x35's in my old JEEP.

    What to look for - JEEP and IH Scouts have them with a 5 x 5 1/2" bolt patterns and you want the flange style which is 73-76 (the dreaded Dana 20 was used 77 thru 86) then in 86 some CJ-7's had them and then JEEP brought them back in 99 for the TJ Wrangler. Early JEEPs (Willys & Kaisers) used the hub style with keyways and most of those were offset to match the Transfer case design and make room for rear mounted PTO shafts. The Chrysler YJ Wranglers & some Ford Explorers ran Dana 35 which arent bad as long as long as they get a posi unit which replaces the weak chunk and they have 5 x 4 1/2" bolt circle.

    The one in my 73 Scout has a measurement of 57" inside of backing plates which is pretty standard dimensions. Postal Jeeps from the 70's have a 44" inside dimensions and most of them came with lockers since they were 2wd.

    Hope this helps
     
  17. gettingreasy
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    Good info Dixiedog, I have saved it for further reference.
    -Jesse
     
  18. I got one out of a 70's postal jeep. Backing plate to backing plate measures about 48" and flange to flange measured 51-51.5"...Mine's a 3.73 posi with flanged axles and 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern.
    I'm saving it for a small hot rod with fat tires..
    BTW. many dana 44's in early to mid 50's F-100s used the 4.27 ratio. Both of mine did. I used a 289 ford motor in my '49 F-1 with that ratio and it was a terror to about 60 MPH. Learned my lesson on that one so the next one got the rear end replaced with a narrowed 2.80 rear from a 66 lincoln.......much better on the hiway
    BTW-2.......I once snapped an axle in the 49 and later smoothed off the ring and pinion....oops!
     
  19. Flat Ernie
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Ernie - you've got it backwards - Hotchkiss is the removable center (9in) and Salisbury is 12 bolt style.


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    You're right, Mutt!! I'm just a dork sometimes...

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