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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dons t, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. Finally got my beater out of the corner of the shop and put it back together so one of my sons can drive it. Took it on about a 60 mile shakedown trip today.

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  2. bchctybob
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    ^^^^ Nice beater!! 4 speed?
     
  3. bchctybob
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    My wife Becky's Corvair at the Ironstone Concourse a couple years ago. They wouldn't judge it because it has non-stock wheels but the judges asked her to bring it back with the stock stuff, they really liked it. She was stoked. My heart attack kept us out of the next year and Covid nixed last year. Maybe 2021?
    Every time I drive that little thing I can't help but smile, it's a blast!
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  4. Thank you. Yes, it is a 4 speed. It really is a blast to drive, but is definitely a beater as well. It had a very amateur “restoration” before I got it and I have been fixing several things that were done wrong. I don’t plan to make it nice, but just use it as a fun car to get around in and let my youngest boy drive until we can finish his 51 Chevy pu.

    Your wife’s is very nice!
     
  5. quick85
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    [QUOTE="...Every time I drive that little thing I can't help but smile, it's a blast!"[/QUOTE]

    You put your finger on driving a Corvair. I had a '63 that was a fun car to drive,
    even though it'd occasionally pitch a belt at the most inopportune time. How I
    wish I had a photo of that Ivy green coupe.
     
  6. quick85
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    I ran across this one that had just recently been purchased by a
    kid. He was stoked about the car and loved to talk about it. I
    think I was almost as excited as he was.

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  7. Also have to share the setup pic since I parked right by a sign I guess I shouldn't have...too good of a photo op to pass up. :rolleyes: Also got to hang out with my 16-year-old daughter and go have a burger at another Route 66 stop. I sure can't complain getting to drive with the top down in early January in Oklahoma. There was snow on the ground just a couple days ago...

    And, yes the silly looking high back bucket seats will be gone soon. A fellow HAMBer in St. Louis picked up a nice set of original seats off craigslist for me last week. I should be able to get them relayed home in a couple weeks. I also need to snap on my NOS poverty caps. Just wanting to make sure it is good to go before snapping them on so as to not mess up my new paint on the wheels. :D

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  8. Phoenix24
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    My dad's been a corvair person for all my life, and I went out and bought a Falcon as a first car lol! I want to get one someday though. Is there anything to watch for? I heard that the engines will overheat when they need a rebuild but I don't know if there's common transmission issues or something.

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  9. quick85
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    ^^ I'd also be interested in any buying tips. I could easily be persuaded
    to get into a Corvair again.
     
  10. I know I should have likely learned more before just jumping off and buying one since it seemed cheap... I am learning, but it is like starting over on everything I know as I try to relate 36 years of knowledge playing with old cars which I should almost just throw out the window...lol

    However, it is also fun learning all new stuff. Just don't like the steep learning curve. :rolleyes:
     
  11. bchctybob
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    As far as buying tips, it’s much like any other old car; stay away from rust buckets. They are cheap enough and plentiful enough so you don’t have to start with a really rusty one. They are very similar year to year but the 1964 is the best of the early versions. The later the better in the early body style, lots of little improvements over the years. I hear a lot of people saying that the ‘65-66 are the best of the later body style but that may be because the smog regulations caused changes in the later models. IDK.
    The 4 speed cars are more fun but don’t dismiss the PG equipped cars. The PG has mostly full size car guts so it’s tough and can be beefed up if needed.
    The suspension is easily removed to rebuild and paint. All rebuild parts are available. Disc brake kits and dual master cylinder kits are available.
    The engines are pretty bulletproof if built carefully and maintained properly. A lot of poorly running Corvairs just need a good tune up and carb synchronization. I wouldn’t put a lot of money into rebuilding a 145 cu in, better to get a 164 and rebuild it. Cost is the same and you get more power and torque.


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  12. frieghtrain
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    Nader didn,t tell anyone, but his son saw strung-out on Coke when he crashed and died
     
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  13. I recently watched a couple videos talking about Nader’s claims. Seems he was more trying to sell books than anything and the Corvair mostly just happened to be the target he chose to attack to make a case. From my own short experience driving the thing, it is way more stable to drive than say my Fairlane...or C10, or several other old cars I have owned over the years. It handles pretty good as best I can tell and the videos pretty much proved many of his claims were false and/or at minimum exaggerated.
     
  14. moparboy440
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    Nader is still alive and is still spreading lies.
     
  15. "Nader didn't tell anyone, but his son was strung-out on Coke when he crashed and died"

    Interesting ... any facts/proof/documentation to back up that claim?

    Edit: Disregard my question ... I just did a quick search and apparently Nader never married or had kids.
     
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  16. CAVEMAN_1960
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    If you guys want to play the Nader card in this thread, I suggest that you watch a YouTube video that was produced by Hagerty Insurance - Larry Webster in particular. He borrowed a couple of my Corvairs and rented a runway at the local airport here in Detroit. Larry wanted to see what old Ralphie was talking about. The title of the vid is: "Will the Corvair Kill You?". One of the cars he drove (sometimes in anger!) was a 1962 Monza sedan that I bought from Ralph Nader's Museum up in Winsted, CT. I don't want to be a spoiler, but Larry lived and his wife and kids are grateful for that. Neither of my early model Corvairs went out of control and flipped over all by themselves with no prior warning. I've watched Larry drive newer cars at speed and I wasn't worried at all. Final comment; None of my Corvairs have grass stains on the roof!
     
  17. Yep, that video is one I watched last week. He drove your car pretty hard and no rollover. :D
     
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  18. 61SuperMonza
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    I watched that video awhile back and thought it was great. You could tell that Larry was having some fun.
    On a side note, that 60 you have is one special car. It's going to be great when finished. VAIRY COOL
     
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  19. 61SuperMonza
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    I inspect a Corvair just as I would any of the era. The big differance is the powerpack.
    Over the years many Corvairs have been "fixed up". Unfortunately many of the motors are now frankenmotors. Parts used from many different years and HP levels.
    You will want to know witch engine/trans combo the car has and research the serial #s for the block, heads, carbs, dist and vac advance or press retard if it a turbo motor. These parts perform best when installed in there intended engine.
    For a prospective buyer these serial # are available on Clark's Corvair website.
    I would look for a car with the 164 displacement. HP ratings at this displacement were 95, 110, 140, turbo 150, 180. I prefer a 4sp. Although I have had 2 PG cars. The 4sp just allows you to keep the motor in its sweet spot.
    Last but not least, you want to check the oil cooler, what type is it. There were 4 different oil coolers installed at the factory. 4 row folded fin, 3, 8, 12 fin. The 12 plate and the folded fin are the best at shedding heat. The cooler should be checked that the fins/plates are clean and free of debris.
    All the tins should be installed with seals. The damper doors should be closed when the engine is cool. If a door is open when the engine is cool the thermostat bellows on that side has failed.
    With what has already been mentioned that about covers it.
     
  20. quick85
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    Very useful information from you fellows and it's truly appreciated. I've rarely seen,
    let alone been in, any Corvairs over the last forty years or so but, for some unknown
    reason have become interested in them again. Thanks.
     
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  21. 61SuperMonza
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    Here's a cool Vair. My dads 64 Goldwood yellow Spyder convertible with Hollywood wheels. 20190601_192124.jpg
     
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  22. quick85
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    I just wanted a closer look.

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  23. Ice man
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    I was a small time HVAC guy in the Burg, (COLD WINTERS) and I did mostly service calls. I had 2 Corvans, loved them, one was a3 sp, and the last one was a 4 sp. Lost's of NO heat calls, at all hrs of the day or night. Those vans were always ready to go, many times going where 4x4s dreaded going. I remember the fuel line froze. I unrolled some 3/8 copper tubing, stuck one end in the gas tank, duct taped the tubing down the side of the van, and hooked up the other end to the fuel pump through the engine door. Drove home in style. They were my choice of work vans for yrs. Even kept a spare engine/trans in the shop and could change it out in Twenty min, with my sons help, and ready to go. Love the Vairs ,Iceman
     
  24. moparboy440
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    Gene Winfield's Corvair powered "Reactor":
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  26. 61SuperMonza
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    That grill and single head light treatment is bothering me.Looks like a Mustang. I friggin hate Mustangs.
     
  27. madmike8
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    I like Vairs... Hopefully there's one in my future...

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  28. moparboy440
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  29. Speedblur101
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    I had several. A 65 monza with a Corsa dash and 140/4 speed was my favorite. There are a million things that you can do to a Corvair and a lot of them really are improvements. Ran a center mounted Holley 4bbl some. Also 2 Holly Webbers. Moved the Battery into the trunk to help weight balance. Had quick steering arms and front disk brakes. The only time I ever had fanbelt trouble was when the alternator bearings went bad. You also need to use good belts. Most people who had belt trouble were over tightening them to start with out of paranoia. Using viton pushrod tube seals instead of the cheap ones that come in the factory gasket sets is a must! Had a lot of fun with mine.
     

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