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calling all panel beaters

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pastorbc, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. pastorbc
    Joined: Jan 3, 2008
    Posts: 193

    from kentucky

    mommy got me a panel beating bag for my birthday. should I fill it with sand (I've heard it can get moist and ruin the bag) or metal shot? any bright ideas out there?

    "yeah, I think that's reverse...go ahead and let the clutch out..."
  2. Da' Bomb
    Joined: Apr 8, 2005
    Posts: 438

    Da' Bomb

    Fill'er with shot
  3. bobx
    Joined: Apr 17, 2004
    Posts: 1,060

    from Indiana

  4. MP&C
    Joined: Jan 11, 2008
    Posts: 2,361


    I'm using No. 8 shot

  5. rodknocker
    Joined: Jan 31, 2006
    Posts: 2,267


  6. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
    Posts: 13,985

    Member Emeritus

    One more vote for shot. I've got bags with both sand and shot and my experience is the shot produces a smoother result and SEEMS to move better than the sand. I attribute it to the fact that the shot is spherical in shape (thus round surfaces moving against each other) vs the jagged edges of the sand contacting each other and thus resisting movement.

  7. Dyce
    Joined: Sep 12, 2006
    Posts: 1,913


    I have one with shot and one with sand. I don't see alot of difference in the way they work. Only difference I noticed is the price. Lead shot is spendy if you have a big bag. It cost about $60.00 to $70.00 to fill mine three years ago...
  8. I used #9 Lead Shot.Ron Covell prefers sand.
    Easier to get,less money.

    If the leather won't keep the sand dry enough,you've got worse problems.
  9. collector
    Joined: May 18, 2006
    Posts: 77

    from madera,ca

    where do you get lead shot? also,some one told me to use glass bead. said it is better than sand ,but i would not know:confused: thanks
  10. Serious hunting places sell Lead Shot,unless local regulations don't allow Lead.
    It's used for loading Shot Gun shells,some places use steel shot.
  11. kenny g
    Joined: Oct 29, 2007
    Posts: 172

    kenny g

    They used to be called shot bags.
  12. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,015

    from Atl Ga

    As said already, Covell preferes sand.
    Lead shot can get expensive, and isn't as easy to come by.
    If you're worried about moisture making the sand sticky, think what it will do to steel shot.

    The very, very little bit of metal forming I've done has been with a sand filled leather technique and methods aren't refined enough to be picky about sand over shot.

  13. Dyce
    Joined: Sep 12, 2006
    Posts: 1,913


    Hate to say it but the lead can be a little unhealthy too. There is always a little dust made with the shot moving around. Most bags are sealed good but shit happens.
  14. E Burfield
    Joined: Dec 31, 2006
    Posts: 130

    E Burfield

    You Can Buy The Lead Shot At A Scuba Diving Shop Cheap
  15. fordcragar
    Joined: Dec 28, 2005
    Posts: 3,179

    from Yakima WA.

    Sand is going to be a lot lighter and cheaper too, then lead shot.
  16. Breathing the dust from the sand can be just as unhealthy. Take precautions either way you fill them to avoid breathing the dust. I add another vote for shot. Have tried both and the shot just has a better "feel"

  17. Slide
    Joined: May 11, 2004
    Posts: 3,025


    I've heard lotsa people say this. I think it makes the most sense to use sand until you build up your skill level (or desire to learn more), and then get another bag for shot.

    If you go with sand, make sure it is strained... like through a window screen or similar.

    My bag has sand in it.
  18. publicenemy1925
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
    Posts: 3,187

    from OKC, OK

    I use sand in mine and can't tell the differance. Everyone says lead moves better but I feel once you hammer on your lead, it's not round anymore.
  19. 51Gringo
    Joined: Jul 22, 2006
    Posts: 652

    from Nor Cal

    Save your money...get sand, but not a fine sand, use a coarse grain. I forget the # of grain, ask Covell, I think its stupid to spend almost a $100 for lead shot to fill a bag, when it doesn't even make that much difference.
    my 2......
  20. rodknocker
    Joined: Jan 31, 2006
    Posts: 2,267


    I bought my shot at Gander Mountain.
  21. old wood 51
    Joined: Aug 26, 2007
    Posts: 368

    old wood 51
    from NAPA CA.

    I've bot mine filled with sand, cheap and easy. I just store it in a dry cabinet in the garage.
  22. tinmann
    Joined: Nov 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,588


    I'm cheap....... mine's full of garden variety sandbox sand, left out in the sun to dry until it was like powder, viola.
  23. Buff
    Joined: May 25, 2007
    Posts: 59


    I have a 18" diameter bag, I filled with #9 bird shot. it weighed 125 pounds. I couldn't move it. I went to lowes and bought playground sand and dried it out on a cookie sheet in the oven and then poured it in. its lighter and it works the same. oh and alot cheaper.

    my two cents

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