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  1. J.Ukrop
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    The week before I left was a busy one. On Wednesday night, my friend Erik dove into Part I of a two part photo shoot on Version 1.5 of the roadster. With any luck, you'll be seeing the rest of the set soon. IMG_8618.jpg
    As someone who takes photos for a living, it was interesting (and fun) to be on the other side of the camera.

    The following morning, I hopped in the truck and drove up to Petaluma to make more headway on Version 2.0.
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    It all started with helping David with some things around the shop, including a final brake bleed on his customer's 1935 Ford pickup.
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    I then focused my attention to my pedals. Since the mounting points on the '39 pedals and the stock Deuce K-member don't align all that well, David recommended that I made a new plate out 10 gauge to weld into position. IMG_8631.jpg Clamping it in place and getting a feel for the general positioning.
    IMG_8629.jpg The sun was out, so we decided to stop at a local park for a leisure lunch. It was refreshing to be out in the roadster and relaxing among the trees.
    IMG_8633.jpg When we got back, we had a clear goal in mind: remove that piece of the K-member. We debated whether or not to use a cutoff wheel, and I opted for using the oxy/acetylene torch. After spending a whole lot of time removing the rear frame rails with the former, I figured this would be the more efficient route.

    David gave me a few pieces of metal to practice on. After about 15 minutes, I realized I was as ready as I was ever going to be. I donned my shade 5 glasses, slipped on some gloves and started cutting.
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    As the torch hissed, I worked to follow the soapstone line. A couple minutes later, I pulled the old section out. Next time, I'll be cleaning up the perimeter and tacking the new plate in place.

    Thursday was one of those days where I felt like I didn't accomplish as much as I wanted to. But as I look back, I remind myself that I'm moving closer towards my goal every time I'm at the shop. My pedal pads, cross-shaft and bushings just showed up in my mailbox today, so we should be able to make some big progress next time I'm there.

    Once the pedals are finished, we're going to focus on steering, brakes and firing the engine. One day at a time!
     
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    Good progress man :)

    Does David ever drop the top on the roadster? Seem to see it up most the time, curious if it folds or lifts off.
     
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    Thanks! He usually keeps it on there. If I recall correctly it does fold, but if it's down he takes it completely off.
     
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    Oh, and I got some absolute treasure in the mail from @Hitchhiker. It's feeling like Christmas around here. The thumb-turn breeze clamps are going to be absolutely perfect for my setup. It's going to be exciting to put them on there!
     
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    O hoho! Good mail day :)
     
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    Also, does anyone have a good source for new 59 AB water pumps?
     
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    I've been in house jail of sorts which is actually quite mechanical and like working on Hotrods is pretty rewarding...

    ...I spent a bit of time catching up...you're on a pretty incredible journey Joey and you truly are going to have a pretty diverse set of rolling stock to chose from for time travelling...life doesn't get much better than that really...

    ...such positivity...It's great to be witness to it all...;)
     
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    :rolleyes:...Oh yeah...that steering arm and the upper zerk on the spindle...that is one of those little headscratchers...that's near identical to mine...I've got an elbowed stack of fittings to get grease in there...

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    I've seen the arms curved down following the axle which surely affects the angles of the pitman and possibly improving access to that nasty access point...note I said possibly...

    ...that just happens to be a place where grease is also hard going in on my ride as well just to complicate the adventure...I think the bushing might be off a bit sort the fill hole might be askewed but it does let some in...

    Any thoughts, plans, on that not so great sum of Ford parts?...
     
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  10. Joey, was the picture of your roadster in the part 1 of the photo shoot in front of a building in the Presidio ? It does my heart good to see the King Bee headlights on your roadster.
     
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    Well, you could take a few things apart. Drill a new hole in the axle king pin area in the middle of the seeing arm. Then tap it and use a 45/90 zerk pointing up or down, whatever will be easier to access. Plug the original hole.

    Edit: I meant to add I’ve a similar set up on an axle for my ‘57, who ever put it together used a straight zerk, the knuckle head just needed to use a 90 pointing up or down.
     
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    I think pre sixties on Instagram just posted about pumps I’ll go hunt and see/message you what I find
     
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    Thanks Budget, perhaps I can find another 90 zerk that can get in there...they may not all be alike...the suggestion of a reposition is a great idea as well...I suppose that may entail a bushing rotation to align the grease hole or path...not sure what's in there...maybe both...

    One good thing though is I see some grease coming out even though it seems difficult going in...and I do jack it up and move the steering to assist...

    Actually I think the 90 went in there was a conflict with the grease head fouling on the space between preventing it from going on...
     
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    Sammy used to run one of the big rebuild outfits that supplied most rotating rebuilds to CarQuest, Napa, Grand Auto........ (later Kragen) when I was selling parts years ago. He got with their drop disgusted with their drop in quality and opened his own shop. They do it all, water pumps, alternators, starters, generators and very well. I used him exclusively for old stuff. He's is in Sacramento if he's still there.
    https://www.yelp.com/biz/s-and-n-auto-electric-sacramento
     
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    Hey Joey just wanted to say that I; like so many others have been following along on your many journeys. Appreciate all your time and effort. Great work. Love the step by step progress. I know everyone will have their opinion on the pumps and that is fine. As an option I run a set of pumps from “Skip” Haney on mine. I have had great luck with them and would highly recommended them. Again appreciate all the work and effort. Keep up the great work. 49D6822A-9BC5-43C0-86E5-F27C3A9953CE.jpeg
     
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    I’ve never done king pins and bushing by myself, but bought new bushings for a shop to replace. I took everything apart and just took the axle and bushings in. I don’t remember anything other that the locating slot on the king pin though.
    I was thinking, in your situation what might work would be drill through, tap, etc. then use one of those small curly looking deburring tools to clean the inside of the bushing up, through the new hole.
    Man, I sure like making work for others;)
     
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    Thanks Stogy! The plan for me is to finish this car, then my '60s Shovelhead chopper, and then be in mid-century house jail. I'll have to find ways to make build threads about all of them!

    Hi Brian, thanks for the tip. I'll take a look!

    Very nice setup! Once we get the steering components in position, we'll be dropping that steering arm, hopefully allowing for an elbow zerk.
     
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    Nick, great eye! Part I brought us to the Presidio, and tomorrow we're heading to your neighborhood—North Beach—to shoot with some night life and neon. Thank you again for the lights. They're really special.

    Got it, thank you.

    Excellent info, thanks!

    Thank you for joining in, Mike. We're having fun every step of the way! I appreciate the information big time.

    Hahaha I think we all like doing that. Great info.
     
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    i was wondering what you are doing for mounting a master cylinder when i was building my spencer roadster i made a batch of aluminum mounts that bolt to the back of the 32 K member using holes that exist there and mounts either a two bolt or three bolt m/c also an arm that gets welded to the brake pedal . i have a few left if you are interested John Eder jmeder32@gmail.com
     
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  20. Joey, those clamps waited a lot of years to wind up in your hands. I honestly would not have sold them to anyone else on the planet. But when we were talking, I realized they would be perfect for your car and would be a cool little link between my truck and your roadster.

    This is the bag, that they were in when I acquired them almost 10 years ago. It was unopened when I got them.

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    Seems fitting that they end up on your car. It's the little things that all add up to make a car special and I think yours is on track to be stellar!
     
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    That is one of the cool elements of the vast HAMB UNIVERSE, parts can sit on shelf for years, then voila, the parts find a noble project, and then the parts find their way to that project!
    Good on you @Hitchhiker ( Matt )
     
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    John, that sounds like a great solution. We are going to focus on m/c mounting, etc. next time I'm up at the shop. If we get into a bind, I'll give you a shout! Thank you for the offer.

    That's the best thing I've seen in a long time. It's an honor to have this car linked to your truck, and the fact that they're NOS is just icing on the cake. I can't thank you enough. I've always loved details. These clamps are going to be one of my favorite details to date.

    Amen to that! That's the power of the HAMB!
     
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    I've spent the past week collecting parts and driving whenever I get the chance. Here's a snapshot from a few days ago.
     
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    Fantastic Joey.

    I’m about 40% threw hopefully the last painting I need to finish to buy the rest of the supplies to get my 46 back on the road. Seeing you darting around the city is really a help keeping me motivated to keep moving forward.

    think this is the longest it’s been down in ten years!
     
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    Thank you! I'm so excited for the sedan to be back in action—so we can take it for a cruise next time I'm in Missouri.
     
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    Greetings from Fabulous Las Vegas. This week, I'm covering SEMA for work. As I sit here on the 27th floor of my hotel, high above the neon signs, flashing lights and dizzying swirl of Sin City, I figured it would be the perfect time for a build update.
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    Let's kick things off with this license plate. It's a crumpled 1942 California plate that I got with a bunch of other parts earlier this year. Although the plate has been turned into a taco, I was thinking that the mounting clips could come in handy. IMG_8816.jpg First I soaked them in Metal Rescue.
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    Then I sanded them, primed them and then hit them with some white paint. IMG_8879.jpg
    When I got to di Falco's, I paired them with my new-to-me 1956 plate and put the pieces together. I'm a big fan of front license plates (as you may know), and I couldn't be happier with how this whole setup looks.

    I feel like its been too long since I had an easy, homework-esque project to do between writing stories and editing videos. This was especially relaxing. The best part? I got to recycle old parts and bring them back to life—much like the rest of the car.

    When I bolted them in place, I showed David what I had been working on. "I like the ridges on them," I said. "Judging by the plate that they came off of, they're at least from the 1940s."

    "Wait a second," David said. "Those are old Ford tie rod clamps that have been modified!" He was right. How neat is that?
     
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    As David worked on customer projects, I directed my focus to the pedals. For those of you who have done this before, you know how time-consuming it can be to get everything to fit and line up correctly. IMG_8882.jpg
    Once I had the plate where I wanted it, I realized that the brake pedal wouldn't clear.
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    Out came the holesaw. Problem solved. I then sandblasted the pedal mount.
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    At the end of the day, David and I joined forces to get everything into place. As we did, we discovered that one of the bolts wouldn't clear the frame. We then welded, drilled and tapped the pedal mount to allow for easier assembly and disassembly.
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    I can't say for sure, but I feel like we have most of the heavy lifting finished on the pedal project. We will pick up when I get back. In the meantime, here's a picture of me and the car.
     
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    For my next two trips to the shop, we're adding another person to the team. I'm excited to say that my brother will be flying out from Michigan to hang out in San Francisco for the week. Andrew has been a huge help on this project since day one, and I can't wait to have him see Petaluma and turn some wrenches on Version 2.0.

    This time around, we're going to try to fire the engine. That means swapping water pumps, checking valves, wiring the engine and all those good things. Last time he was in town, we got Version 1.5 fired up, as shown in the video below.



    We also have some other hot rod fun planned, but more on that later!
     
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