f-e, get 'em from night prowlers. much better people to deal with than moon and way more likely to have 'em in stock. thats where the bellflowers on my buick came from. one of them is rusted on the tip but i do drag them on alot of shit to. hehe. the quality is good and the price is better than moon. i got a set of chrome dump tubes from them also and didn't use 'em. just more stuff i need to sell i guess. i do that to much. buy shit then change my mind. actually on these ground clearence was an issue so we didn't use 'em...ken....