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Hot Rods Avantis, are they for wierdos?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by stude_trucks, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. stude_trucks
    Joined: Sep 13, 2007
    Posts: 4,755


    Well, if nothing else, I think we are verifying that there are a lot of wierdos on this site :D

    Seriously, I wasn't expecting such a positive response. I was thinking there would be more thumbs downs but that seems to be the minority so far.

    And yes, I think something in this direction is exactly what I was thinking too. To me, rear is what is off. However, I can't see a rational, sensible way to modify it that wouldn't involve some extra serious hacking and reconstruction that would be way beyond my skills and $'s. It would take some serious balls to do what likely would have to be done to 'improve' on the body lines. And then like others have said, you likely would end up with something hard to ever sell even if you were successful.

    I think I am going to continue to keep my eyes out for them and contemplate a potential game plan.
  2. I almost bought one until I checked with my insurance agent. I suggest you check with your insurance agent. This was many years ago but at that time the fiberglass cars were MUCH MORE expensive to insure. I definitely like their style.

    Charlie Stephens
  3. stude_trucks
    Joined: Sep 13, 2007
    Posts: 4,755


    Really? Interesting. Never even thought of that. The classic car insurers might be more sympathetic. Or as a second/third car on my Geico policy probably won't add too much.
  4. '46SuperDeluxe
    Joined: Apr 26, 2009
    Posts: 255

    from Clovis, CA

    Do the headlights remind anyone of "Wall-E?"
  5. stude_trucks
    Joined: Sep 13, 2007
    Posts: 4,755


  6. I always thought it was a pretty good looking car.
  7. temper_mental
    Joined: Oct 22, 2006
    Posts: 2,718

    from Texas

    I am a weirdo and I love Studebaker's but I have never cared for Avantis. When I drove my truck all the time that was one of the questions people would ask me I bet you would love to have a Avanti. I would always say no I like my truck
  8. bigolds
    Joined: Oct 27, 2006
    Posts: 883


    I love em.....wouldn't cut up any of the early pieces though. Would love to do a more contemporary build on one of the later continuation cars!!!
  9. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,081

    from middle ca.

    hey , im wierd .... ill take your AVANTI !!!!!!!!!!! just let me know when to pick it up !
    ........... steve
  10. Never cared for them. Maybe cause this gay guy who lived in my neighborhood when I was growing up,had one. Hard to look at one without him coming to mind. I remember seeing one that ran at Bonneville,that was cool though!
    Also remember seeing some 4dr versions too.
  11. Dooley
    Joined: May 29, 2002
    Posts: 2,651

    from Buffalo NY

  12. toml24
    Joined: Sep 23, 2009
    Posts: 1,558


    The Studebaker Avanti and Jensen Interceptor have always been my top-2 favorite cars of all time. It's that giant wrap-around rear window on both cars that is very cool.
  13. Hightone111
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
    Posts: 323


    Hate Advantis...But I'll take an R3 if anyone has one laying around.

    Actually I've never really liked any Studebakers until I recently started building one and I'm still not even sure what year mine is haha.

    Very impressed with the engineering department though....
  14. If everybody loved them they'd have sold a lot more of them, and they'd be unaffordable now. I like them, dare to be different.
  15. rixrex
    Joined: Jun 25, 2006
    Posts: 1,433


    I have a 71 Avanti II, Altman-Newman era, they had enough 64 stuff laying around to be very true to the 64 except for the drivetrain..Yes, the later IIs started to get ugly (uglier?)..they shopped around for the best deals on parts and came up with a 327 mated to a Torqueflite using an adapter that they designed and built..In my picking and hoarding I have found a 289 with the Paxton and an old Offenhauser dress-up kit onnit..would love to find a trashed one to build a race car..
  16. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 8,411


    I like 'em. There's a black one that runs around here on a regular basis. Talk about anticipating the Mustang and Corvette, I have to say there's some Gremlin styling leaking out too. But I like Gremlins too.

  17. jroberts
    Joined: Oct 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,602


    Andy Granatelli wasn't president of Studebaker, but he did build the early ones that raced at Bonneville and other places. Included in the Bonneville effort were also GT Hawks and Larks. Even a 6 cylinder Lark Convertible was put on the salt. This was a record setting session with may world records being set.

    The red R2 car listed on ebay is especially rare because of the Power Shift transmission. Still, I would prefer the T-10. Actually both transmissions were options with the standard tranny being a three speed with overdrive.

    The Avanti used a Lark Convertible frame. That frame had a X-member that made the frame stiffer. Even the early Avanti II's from Newman-Altman used that frame. The entire suspension set up can be traced all the way back to 1953 with some aspects being even earlier than that. Remember Studebaker never had much money (after WWII) to tool up for drastic changes.

    The Avanti is definitely a car that you either love or hate. There are a few of us that are sort of in the middle. I really think the biggest improvement I have see made is to lower the rear end a little.

    As far as a long term investment with increasing value, an R1 or R2 GT Hawk package car might be a better choice as far as Studebakers go.

    Weirdo? Well, there are a lot of us around you know.
  18. jroberts
    Joined: Oct 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,602


    I for one would like to see your build as it goes along. Those modifications sound intriguing. There a few guys who have put that Corvette or Jag independent rear suspension under their Avantis with quite a bit of success.
  19. jroberts
    Joined: Oct 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,602


    The white Avanti that you posted with the blue and red stripes has run at both Bonneville and at Maxton. It is an Avanti II, thus could run in a production class with its 400 SBC. A really nice car.
  20. Weird is GOOD!

    To my eyes, the Avanti is one of those designs you don't touch. It looks like nothing else, and in a good way. I'm not saying that it's necessarily a perfectly designed car, but I'll be damned if I can figure any way to improve it. Purposeful. Clean. Original.

    The most amazing thing to me is that the Avanti still looks like it might only be a five year old design when it's actually closer to fifty. But then what do I know. I like Citroen SMs too! :D


    Come to think of it, I seeing some vague similarities between these two cars. :cool:
  21. Bill Walford
    Joined: Nov 9, 2008
    Posts: 68

    Bill Walford
    from fl.

    I never even thoought about avantis till my wife's Dad died and we went to Monterrey,California and brought home his.
    R2 POWERED and man it really goes!!! I am loving this one and always keep my eyes peeled for another.
    That supercharger whistling factory really sounds awesome.
    Never gone to a car show without 10 questions about the car asked......and most common question it a ford 289? LOL
  22. Hooley
    Joined: Mar 13, 2004
    Posts: 108


    I like em and want one someday. But then I like orphans. Studebakers Henry J's etc.

  23. pdq67
    Joined: Feb 12, 2007
    Posts: 787


    I've went many a late Sat. night high-speed ride up like 115 and above mph in an old '51 4-dr Commander V-8 Auto car. (Early '60's).....

    You had a hard time killing one of them, 232" solid lifter cammed V-8 and all.

    Now, the downside of it was the "center-steer" that was back then like the early Chevys that posed a big problem when the frame hole wore out in the middle of the front crossmember!

    BTTT, imho, I want to say that Mr. L's '53 "Starliner" (??) HT is the best looking car ever made and that includes my '67SS/RS Camaro to boot!

    I think that it is listed as one of the ten best looking American Cars ever made.....

    The only other car I ever lusted after was a '63/'64(??) or so Stude GTO Hawk that was like the earlier '50's Hawks less the taller tail fins!

    My Buddy Jerry bought a junkyard '57 Stude 259 3-speed OD, Silver Hawk back then in the late '60's and boy did he go throught it, what a F** shame looking back. And I'm here to say that it ran even tho worn out, like a BAT-Outta-Hell!!

    I ended up with it's 4-barrel carb and intake on my 232" Stude that I installed in my '52 Willys Areo Eagle HT car back then!!

  24. sugarlou
    Joined: May 26, 2007
    Posts: 120


  25. the-rodster
    Joined: Jul 2, 2003
    Posts: 6,643


  26. Hal_396
    Joined: Apr 14, 2009
    Posts: 310


    I like them. That newer avanti is pretty cool, (for a new car).
  27. Torque-Tube
    Joined: Nov 9, 2008
    Posts: 146


    There are many kinds of weirdos. The Avanti is distinctive classy and kicks butt all the way home. Some weirdos are like that.
  28. bulletproof1
    Joined: Feb 23, 2004
    Posts: 2,080

    from tulsa okla

    hang a straight axle under one, nose high, with a big huffer sticking out of the hood.fenderwall headers. even more odd than it was to begin with....
  29. stude54
    Joined: Jan 9, 2008
    Posts: 47

    from michigan

  30. Retro Jim
    Joined: May 27, 2007
    Posts: 3,860

    Retro Jim

    Avantis were way ahead of their time ! I alway liked the way they looked , even today . I always wanted one when I was a teen but never got a chance to get one .
    They are still very stylish IMO !

    Retro Jim

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