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Algon fuel injection, and accessories

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Algon, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
    Joined: Jun 6, 2007
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    THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    from FRENCHTOWN

    I had an Algon setup for a 300 Ford inline six. I sold it before I ever got around to working on it to - believe it or not - a guy who had an exotic V-12 Masseratti [or Lamborghini, I've forgotten which] who was having problems with the V-12 injection and wanted to adapt the 300 six stuff to his V-12.
     
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  2. Blownolds
    Joined: Mar 31, 2001
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    Blownolds
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    from So Cal

    I once had two super rare Algon setups. One was for 455 Olds, one was for 430 Lincoln...

    Long gone to new homes.
     
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  3. Little Wing
    Joined: Nov 25, 2005
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    Little Wing
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    Well being this is an Algon thread, thats why I asked if ,an Algon base be rebuilt with Hilborn hardware ?
     
  4. BobF
    Joined: Dec 30, 2004
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    BobF
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    from Poway, CA

    In answer to your question YES. Al used individual nozzles same as Hilborn/Kinsler/Crower but his each had a adjustable needle in them. The control or often referred to "barrel valve" also was different, not actually a "barrel" but a needle moved in/out (I've yet to take mine apart) in a block controlled by the throttle.
    You could replace all the nozzles/hoses with Hilborn stuff, and add the Hilborn barrel valve and bypass system. The Algon also used a unique aircraft(WWII) type fuel pump which is long out of production, and I find impossible to locate parts. If you used all other Hilborn parts obviously their pump would also work.
     
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  5. backwoods96
    Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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    from Mead, Wa.

    I have one of those pump's if anyone is interested. Frank
     
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  6. Little Wing
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    Little Wing
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    from Northeast


    Have a few Cherrys so good there ,,thanks
     
  7. Algon
    Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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    Algon
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    Actually Algon dropped the brass needle and seat valve you speak of for a more standard barrel valve but it also was adjustable. At first it was used with the adjustable nozzles but matching fixed nozzles became the standard to make the system more user friendly. There are also several different pumps besides the aircraft units and many variations of those.

    Here is a rather hard to find Algon piece, the drive extension to clear a Glimer belt along with the early brass valve and a 427 MR intake which has the fixed nozzle set and an early adjustable barrel valve.
     

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  8. Tom S. in Tn.
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    I owned an Algon for a Hi-Riser FE like this one of 34 Andy's, except the fuel mgmt. parts and the name and fins in the middle had been milled away for some reason. It had been purchased out of Texas some where by Percy Dowlin for his Thunderbolt, here in Middle Tn. It used aerated nozzles but were not Hilborn.
    The control valve and distribution block, were a conventional barrel style made from a gold/gray colored anodized aluminum block. It used Jackson screw in by-pass jets that went in with a screw driver under a AN cap on top of the valve.
    Gave the manifold to a friend who wanted it and probably wound up sold for scrap. I never saw another like it. The other parts later sold and given away when I quit.
    Tom S. in Tn.
     
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  9. kennedy
    Joined: Sep 28, 2004
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    from TN

    I have this Algon unit for a Y-block Ford.
    Kennedy
     

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  10. Boldsmobile
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    Boldsmobile
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    from W.Mass

    I have one myself and know where 2 others are located. One of which is actively used.

    Wonder how many were made.
     
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  11. Blownolds
    Joined: Mar 31, 2001
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    Blownolds
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    from So Cal

    Probably not many, and I bet that one of those is the one I had. Mine came from the guy that used to run an alcohol-fed big-inch 455 (496?) in a black Henry J on the west coast (until he replaced that with a DRCE). I later sold it to someone on the ROP forum. Too cool of a piece, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's not using it.
     
  12. afaulk
    Joined: Jul 20, 2011
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    You can get hoses with swedged ends from dragparts.com I think they have a tool you can buy to build your own also. The hoses though are not expensive. Good luck, Allan Faulkner:D
     
  13. Boldsmobile
    Joined: Dec 30, 2009
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    Boldsmobile
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    from W.Mass

    I bought mine on ROP. I got it from a member in Mich , his name is Tom.

    One is being used on a race car. Think it's a 51 Chevy. Owners name is Greg.

    Third I know of belongs to someone from the classic olds forum who lives in Virginia, named Joe. His isn't being used.
     
  14. 1961A/D
    Joined: Jul 11, 2011
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    Taking a long shot here, any good useable Algon adustable nozzles for sale, maybe some one changed over to hilborn or kinsler fixed nozzles. PM me if you want.
    Thanks, Bobby
     
  15. 1961A/D
    Joined: Jul 11, 2011
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    Saw this algon system on a slingshot while at Bakersfield last month, sounded nice when chakl`n on nitro. Motor was like the original in the chassis, a Desoto hemi, SWEET.
     

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  16. 1961A/D
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    These Algon peices were for sale in the swap meet, the water outlets were re-pops. Scoop, $2,200, flat head unit $2,700.
     

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  17. sonoramic
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    1. Maryland HAMBers

    Hello all,

    Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I have a buddy that is looking for a ALGON front timing cover for a SBC. If anyone has one, or knows of a good place to source one, please let me know.
     
  18. My Algon Flathead unit I have just purchased algon 1.jpg
     
  19. Jalopy Joker
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  20. drtrcrV-8
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    JJ, Thanks for doing my advertising for me!! LOL!! Those are 2 complete units for sbc that I've had for some time, & by complete, I mean injectors, front covers, fuel & water pumps.(There is also a spare Algon water pump sitting between them as a separate piece)., AND YES, those prices are FIRM!!
     
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  21. drtrcrV-8
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  22. drumyn29
    Joined: Feb 16, 2006
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    Why are there 2 large threaded holes, one small one(red cap) and the other some kind of a bleeder. MVC-004F.jpg MVC-005F.jpg
     
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  23. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    I would guess fuel in and out and maybe a pressure gauge port
     
  24. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    jimmy six
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    I have 2 Algon 302 GMC units. A straight and a fully cast 45* angle. The straight has larger butterflies, both have Cherry-Burrel pumps belt driven, one has the 2 to 1 gear reduction. Neither have adjustable nozzles. I showed Ken Enderle one of Al’s barrels valves and he thought it was an excellent design. The internals of a GMC make shared port mechanical injection use with gasoline a little hard to perfect, nitro/alcohol is a different story. Both units have been run at Bonneville.
     

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