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Technical A little excitement yesterday

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brokedownbiker, Apr 12, 2020.

  1. brokedownbiker
    Joined: Jun 7, 2016
    Posts: 506


    I was bored yesterday so I decided to drive the '41 Chevy into town to gas it up at the local farm store (they sell non-ethanol gas there). As I entered the parking lot I had to circle around a guy who was pulling away from the pump (without looking) which led me to a place where the pavement was at a weird angle near one of the entrances. The bracket holding my brake booster under the floor caught the concrete and folded back, deforming the booster and losing the diaphragm seal. As it bent back it pulled the pedal down to the floor so I've got zero brakes. It got exciting for a few seconds as I dodged the pump, the guy pulling away and the pedestrians walking across the lot.
    An embarrassing tow-truck ride home later, I got it raised up and got a look at the damage.

    This morning I got it taken apart, you can see how bent the bracket is:

    Luckily it looks like all I have to do is straighten the plate and replace the booster. And I still need to gas up the damned thing!
  2. vtx1800
    Joined: Oct 4, 2009
    Posts: 1,022


    I'm glad you experienced no further damage, with that kind of luck the purchase of a lottery ticket might have been a good choice:)
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  3. Never saw a booster pulled apart like that, you were fortunate not to have hit the othercar, the gas pump or the pedestrian. HRP
  4. foolthrottle
    Joined: Oct 14, 2005
    Posts: 1,033


    Lets see here, yer not dead, yer not on fire, you didn't kill or injure anyone, you didn't crap your pants, no other property damage, its official!your new name is Lucky!!!!
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  5. greener200
    Joined: Jan 20, 2009
    Posts: 254


    WHAT HE SAID /\ Good for you ! I'm a big fan of "what goes around, comes around" and you my friend just came around :D
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  6. oldiron 440
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
    Posts: 1,507

    oldiron 440

    Did he say a thing about not crapping his pants?
  7. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 46,101


    happened to a guy I knew in his 41 pontiac years ago, but a different situation, he was driving in town when he had to dodge something and drove over a median and it ripped the booster off, so he couldn't stop.

    Gotta look under the car and "see" potential problems like that, before they happen. The problem is, until they happen, you don't know what to look for.
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  8. Ouch!
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  9. partsdawg
    Joined: Feb 12, 2006
    Posts: 2,665

    from Minnesota

    No functional emergency brake?
  10. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 6,345


    I would be trying to mount the booster higher in the frame if it was mine. It is obviously not safe the way it is built now. You have critical parts below the scrub line.
  11. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 24,919

    Jalopy Joker

    and, you needed gas for?
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  12. Kiwi 4d
    Joined: Sep 16, 2006
    Posts: 2,716

    Kiwi 4d

    At least you will have time at present to conjure up a substantial bash plate. I imagine relocating it higher is not a feasible option.
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  13. backwoods96
    Joined: Jun 21, 2010
    Posts: 26

    from Mead, Wa.

    Move up higher or smaller booster
  14. ken bogren
    Joined: Jul 6, 2010
    Posts: 671

    ken bogren

    Skid plate(s) may be needed
  15. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 8,276


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  16. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 10,519

    Blue One
    from Alberta

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: For driving around enjoying the scenery and nice weather and for general mental health.
  17. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
    Posts: 7,368


    Not in Pennsylvania.
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  18. Brake booster ?

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  19. ^^^^^^^^ THIS^^^^^^^^ GOOD POST !
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  20. bchctybob
    Joined: Sep 18, 2011
    Posts: 2,211


    This was a timely post. I bought an unfinished project a few months back and have been slowly going over it and sprucing things up. One thing I noticed was that the master cylinder bracket extended about 1/2” below the bottom of the frame right where speed bumps will catch it. So I trimmed it slightly above the frame, radiused the corners and deburred everything. A quick shot of paint and I felt better. Now I’m extra glad I took the time.
    Glad the damage was negligible and no one got hurt.

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  21. brokedownbiker
    Joined: Jun 7, 2016
    Posts: 506


    Oh yeah, there is a functional E-brake, there just wasn't time to get hold of it. No power steering so I was rather busy muscling the wheel back and forth dodging crap. And the E-brake is not easy to reach in a '41, it is more of a parking brake than an emergency feature apparently; it is pretty far up under the dash on my car.

    When my new booster arrives, I'll be trimming some of the bracket off. It hangs down about an inch and a quarter below the bottom booster mounting holes. I've been driving this car about 2 years now and I've never had a issue with speed bumps or such, the car isn't super low but the booster bracket does hang below the frame (for another couple of days anyway). There isn't really any way to raise the booster/master cylinder any higher, the M/C lid is almost touching the floor, short of mounting it on the firewall (yuck) and going to hanging pedals.

    It was just a fluke of bad angles and a low (-ish) car but it has taught me that I need to slow down a bit and watch the other folks on the road. I thought I had that lesson already learned what with riding Harley's for over 40 years and still breathing but I guess not, haha!

    Thanks for all the comments and input folks, this is why I lurk around here!
  22. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 46,101


    do you have enough leg muscles that you can do away with the power booster all together?
  23. rusty valley
    Joined: Oct 25, 2014
    Posts: 1,505

    rusty valley

    yeah, get rid of it , or make a skid plate
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  24. Barrelnose pickup
    Joined: Aug 20, 2008
    Posts: 1,058

    Barrelnose pickup

    That’s the kind of excitement I can do without these days, glad for you not much damage to all concerned.
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  25. Scumdog
    Joined: Mar 3, 2010
    Posts: 622


    Here in New Zealand you HAVE to have a hefty skid plate under your booster to prevent what happened to the O.P., ie no skid plate - not road legal
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  26. Scumdog
    Joined: Mar 3, 2010
    Posts: 622


    What he said!
  27. Or if you drive stock cars on Saturday nights, you LOOK for things like that that will result in a DNF. Murphy's Law always prevails. I take that philosophy into anything I build.
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  28. That’s A good rule and easy to do.
    Not being from NZ, Can the skid plate be bolt on or does it need to be permanently welded?
  29. So what is the diameter of the booster?
    I’m assuming there’s an access hole in the floor to fill the reservoir already, perhaps a domed door over the assembly would give you enough room without causing too much bump in the floor board.
  30. partssaloon
    Joined: Jan 28, 2009
    Posts: 424


    I have a skip plate on my 48
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