Register now to get rid of these ads!

Projects A Full-Fendered Side Project

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. it is usually the ricochet that bounces a piece under the glasses. i have had it happen even with the full shield. the hardest thing is to resist the urge, to rub the eye. at least it wasn't actually on his birthday.
    even superman has his krytonite.
     
  2. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,785

    alchemy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I've had more than a dozen metal slivers pulled from my eyes, and have worn safety glasses religiously since that first mistake. I used to even get some slivers that would fall down into my eyes later in the day from my hair. That's not much of a possibility anymore, and it doesn't look like that could happen to Mr. Tardel either.
     
  3. thirtytwo
    Joined: Dec 19, 2003
    Posts: 2,629

    thirtytwo
    Member

    I don't know why I always feel the need to stick up for the lowly 350 on here , and I get the vintage sbc thing... Honest.. But I think alot of this hatred came from the sbc being called a belly button motor 15 years ago, and people giving themselves a pat on the back by saying ... " well at least it's not a 350"

    350 version of the sbc lasted about 28 years in production cars and trucks, there is a reason for that... The much loved 327 only 9

    Next argument is " well it's not old".... And I get that too.... BUT some how

    5spds , mummerts bitchin yblock heads,French flathead blocks , new edelbrock slingshots, and block letter heads are ok because "they can look the part" ... Well a 350 can look the part

    Actual convos I hear:

    Guy says" hey cool a 59a flathead" -... No actually it's a French flathead made in the 80s..., - oh wow that's pretty cool too, least its not a sbc

    "Wow edelbrock sling-shot... Is that an old one?"- no it's a new one...." Well at least you didn't pay 2k for an old one!"

    " wow neat traditional car, 39 box"- No it's a 5spd-" oh cool at least you can drive it"

    " wow that y-block really runs hard,nice to see a vintage motor... are those aluminum heads? - yes they are brand new made by a guy in sandiego ... "Wow really that's awesome"

    " holy shit 327 , cragar blown4-71, 4-97s, and a magneto! Far out!... Soo cool, that thing sounds healthy!" - well actually sir it's a 350..... "Why would you go put a stupid belly button crate motor in such a neat car!!??"
     
    Baumi, X38, 66gmc and 4 others like this.
  4. dumprat
    Joined: Dec 27, 2006
    Posts: 2,763

    dumprat
    Member
    from b.c.

    Wear a ball cap! The right way around. Over twenty years in machine shops I have ever only had metal in my eye once. And I wear a hat religiously. Every other machinist I know who doesn't wear something that covers the top of their safety glasses has had multiple eye injuries. It works. Sorry for Keith's eye...
     
    BradinNC, gwhite and catdad49 like this.
  5. thirtytwo
    Joined: Dec 19, 2003
    Posts: 2,629

    thirtytwo
    Member

    image.jpg View attachment 3141239

    My favorite fendered model A , I think I read somewhere it had a 283 with a 30/30 and a glide seems like it would have to have atleast 4.88 gear for that to even move , but anyway cool looking car

    I been told urgent care and eye DR. Is the way to go for metal in the eye VS. the ER... It's happened to me 3 times all with safety glasses I always say I'm going to start wearing goggles but never do
     
    -Brent-, kiwijeff and kidcampbell71 like this.
  6. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 13,653

    DDDenny
    Member
    from oregon

    Bubba
    Hell, I think I'd rather see a y-block in that A coupe than a 350. But I think our work here is done, we'll get over it. Save your strength for the next project from the Atomic-Rex skunkworks. If they can turn this one for some fast green maybe they will see fit to take a poll and let us members brainstorm a combo 327/4speed on the next one.
     
  7. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Hey, 3w, guarantee you will remain in our prayers until such time you feel justified talkin' to the BOSS in that tone. Get well, Bud. P.S. You might want to sneak in another DARVON. ha ha
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2016
  8. Limey Kid
    Joined: Mar 5, 2006
    Posts: 1,012

    Limey Kid
    Member

    Alright, this may come sounding like I'm an arse'ole, but truly that's not my intention.
    Mr. Tardel clearly has abilities, skills, vision and the "eye" that I can only dream of having. His attention to detail and standard of craftsmanship is without question. I am having a real problem with the crate motor option. From a pure economics standpoint, it does make fiscal sense, if that is the main criteria. But we are talking traditional hot rods here. This car is going to be flipped. Being cynical here, the main reason for putting a crate motor in this survivor car is to have less outlay/more profit? I do understand the needs of a small business, I have owned them, still do. But this site preaches the gospel of traditional cars built in a traditional way. I fully acknowledge that a SBC is traditional. I also realize it is a 350 SBC in there now, but don't you owe it to the car to put it back to something more period. I'm assuming the Cragar wheels aren't going to stay. I'm also assuming any other details which don't quite fit the vision will be changed. So whatever criteria are used to change those out should surely be against a crate motor. I am seeing a contradiction here. Either sell it without an engine and let the new owner choose, (and fit it for them), or put something better than a new crate motor in. Doesn't the car deserve better.
    I have no doubt this car will end up fantastic. Tardel is building it, how could it be anything else. I guess the reason a lot of us "regular" guys would put a crate motor in, I think shouldn't apply to him. . He is anything but "normal" when it comes to building traditional hot rods.
    In a full act of disclosure, my coupe has a '61 283 SBC, with a700r4 behind it. Being just a "normal" guy, I justify the transmission choice based on the fact that my daughter likes riding with my wife and me. It just felt weird the thought of the gear shift coming up through my daughters legs.
    Cheers,
    Stewart.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2016
  9. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
    Posts: 8,056

    theHIGHLANDER
    Member

    Metal in the eye :eek: That sucks man, and that little sliver makes a lot of pain. I don't think I'm going out too far on a limb saying it's not his 1st time. Glasses, face shield, goggles, sometimes it's just gonna happen. Had a site supervisor threaten to send me home if I didn't wear my safety glasses to remove a shit ton of filler from a door and 1/4 panel. Anyone ever sand almost 1/2" of filler back with a 7" "bondo buster" D/A? Put safety glasses on and the powder traps in there like a vacuum hose is attached. Why mention it here? I know you have a clean shell and fenders but you might find some somewhere in all those body parts. Unless you wear a full hood like a sand blaster get up you're better with nothing but a fan at your back. I hope the healing process goes fast, but you only need 1 eye to bang a keyboard and get some of the other issues worked out.

    Hey Limey Kid, good input, and don't sell yourself short on your own vision/ability. Still, and in an effort to help throw the last bucket of water on that fire, the only thing that has a few knickers in a twist on the subject is how the W O R D S are used to describe the job. "Crate motor" has a 40 grit context in most any SBC topic on the board. I'll also go as far to say that if someone was doing an old SS/A Mopar build and said "crate motor" about their brand new 426 HEMI not a word would be spoken in the same tone. Sometimes we need to get over terminology and get on with what counts. If nothing were said, or at least if those 2 words weren't used, the flatulent fumes wouldn't be here. Nothin personal, in fact to anyone who's mentioned it as well.
     
    3wLarry likes this.
  10. Zykotec
    Joined: May 30, 2011
    Posts: 151

    Zykotec
    Member

    If you go for the crate motor, just tell people it's a 283, bored out to 4 inches and stroked to 3.48 inches.
    Any crate engine is still a bunch better than the typical 145 hp smogmotor 350 out of a 76 Malibu...
     
    Scooterville likes this.
  11. woodbutcher
    Joined: Apr 25, 2012
    Posts: 3,195

    woodbutcher
    Member

    :D Nice looking start to what will be a great build.
    Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
    Leo
     
  12. Get well soon Tardel! Do what ya gotta do with the mill. Ya can't go wrong with a 283/4spd though. That's what I'm running in my 41. :)
     
  13. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 18,926

    Moriarity
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    this car is going to kick ass! way to go man...get well soon Tardel I've been there it sucks, happens so fast
     
  14. PKap
    Joined: Jan 5, 2011
    Posts: 593

    PKap
    Member
    from Alberta

    Sorry to hear about the pain, kinda like rodeo, working on old cars is not "if "you get hurt but "when and how bad". Hope for a complete recovery.
    I really don't understand the 350 hatred some people have. I understand messing with old/odd engines on my own stuff ( I daily drive a 392 international, and my truck has a 472 caddilac), and I am willing to pay the price to be different. But when I build a car to flip, for seat of the pants power vs.economy, coupled with ease of finding parts and self maintenance , there is nothing even close to the sbc and an odd engine may even scare off a buyer! (except when you guys are building it a Hamber will be the most likely next owner) In fact I bet if you could go back to the average hot-rodder in the 50's, and offered to trade their flat heads , y blocks or their 283 for a new chev 350, 90% would jump at it. If it's dressed properly, (especially with multiple carbs imo) that is the right way to go, as budget is almost everything on a flip.
    Love the chop by the way, and will enjoy whatever you guys end up doing.
     
  15. Get well soon Keith and I hope to see you back on stage shortly.
    This is going to be another tasteful build from you guys, for sure.

    BTW, I see your lift being installed, another improvement that will make work easier.
     
  16. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Well stated, thirtytwo. WELL STATED ! I hope to shake your hand when we go to El Mirage this year, or sometime when we drop down to Huntington Beach. You hit the proverbial nail on the head. I have met Ford guys in Texas who literally HATE Chevies and everything about them. Personally, I think the thin-wall Fords are great engines, but I can build four SBCs for the cost of one 302 or whatever, and since I don't wring an engine out, ONE will last forever. If Ford fuckers want to spend their kids' inheritance to have a Ford in a Ford, I wish them the best. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, sounds as badass as a SBC with a solid-lifter Duntov 30-30. Rant is over. We will be driving our Deuce highboy(SBC, 700R4, Vintage Air heat/ac) when we come West.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2016
    missmuriel likes this.
  17. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Man, those Aussies build SOME KIND OF RODS. I haven't seen any posts from WHODAKY lately.
     
  18. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I can't fucking believe it ! ! All this muckety muck about a Model A coupe. "Chop it 3", no 4", OK 6". Use a crate motor, or maybe a 265, 283, 327, 732, 901, 221, etc. Everyone is jumping through his ass to convince Vern's boy and our Irish leader to do this, do that, yet N O B O D Y has said a single word about the Deuce roadster sitting in the corner, quietly waiting its turn. THAT, my fellow HAMBers, is truly an abomination, cruel and unusual punishment, abandonment, and I need a crying towel. Carry on.
     
  19. Bader2
    Joined: May 19, 2014
    Posts: 1,143

    Bader2

    Are you pissed er what's your deal?
     
  20. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    RYAN, ORDER THAT CRATE MOTOR ! Remember the budget ! !
     
  21. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Bader2, this is an attempt at rodder humor. It seems I awakened the troops. By the way, your coupe has the "look", which is what Barry Lobeck was famous for. HOWEVER, remember that I am not apologizing. At 69 years young, I have earned the right to upset people, then laugh about it. I would dearly love to have Ryan AND Vern's boy for Grandsons.
     
    russellmn likes this.
  22. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Super combination, Scooterville. I always thought the 327 was just a bitch of an engine. My '40 sedan has one sittin' between the rails, and I think it makes it kinda special.
     
  23. Gary Addcox
    Joined: Aug 28, 2009
    Posts: 2,351

    Gary Addcox
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    We of the modern V-8 ilk just love cruising at a steady 75 mph until we get tired of riding. You just can't do that in a T, or an A, or a flathead equipped rod. :D:)
     
  24. louisb
    Joined: Oct 13, 2008
    Posts: 991

    louisb
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Didnt I remember talk of a flathead assembly video a while back? This might be the perfect candidate for that motor since there is no real deadline. You could keep the cost down by building it mostly stock. Selling the video would help justify the added expense. Just saying.

    --louis
     
    gwhite likes this.
  25. Bader2
    Joined: May 19, 2014
    Posts: 1,143

    Bader2

    If a rebuild on a chivy ain't in the budget,a flathead rebuild REALLY ain't in the budget.
     
    belair likes this.
  26. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 19,204

    Ryan
    ADMINISTRATOR
    from Austin, TX
    Staff Member

    Ha. Y'all are funny.
     
  27. If you can't, then you're doing it wrong :D. Ask @MrModelT....bang bang!
     
    D.Lee and Hitchhiker like this.
  28. @Ryan, how's Keith? Looking forward to updates!!
     
  29. Danekejt
    Joined: May 27, 2012
    Posts: 100

    Danekejt
    Member
    from Pa

    this build has us all whipped up into a frenzy. :)
     
  30. Bullshit!! I was doing 60 in a bone stocker on the freeway yesterday. Thats with 40hp. Give me a warmed up banger and she'll do 75 all day long.

    Just cause you need the "safety" of a more modern engine doesn't mean I do.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2020 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.