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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. This is such a fun little hot rod project! You guys took a little different approach than Bob did with mine. Curious about your reasoning to run the powergen on the passenger side. Looks great there! I'm running a water pump riser because i didn't want to raise the engine resulting in a hump in the floor pan. I don't think you've shown the engine mocked up, maybe I missed it. Will you have to clearance the floors? Did you guys consider a riser? Just curious of the thought process and result. Looking good!

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  2. Ryan
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    Ok... oil fill... Took the simple approach... just cut her down and stick her on. Hard to tell from the photos, but there is plenty of hand room in there to get the cap off. A funnel is required for filling though. Looks clean. Simple.

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  3. slowmotion
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    I was wonderin' about the oil tube. Good, clean solution.
     
  4. catdad49
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    OK, been reading this build from the start & want to skip to the last page for big climax!! This is just.... well you know.... The tits! (Sorry for the sexual connotations) Was the oil fill tube mod in the plan or was it one of those " aw shit" moments? No matter, it turned out OK!
     
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  5. HelmuthBrothers
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    Awesome! Thanks for posting this.
     
  6. Rand Man
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    I'll have to find just the right vintage funnel. No plastic shit allowed. Ha, ha.
     
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  7. Tim
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    Make sure it's not a metal finished to perfection funnel. That shit ain't trad ;) lol

    Man I'm excited to see this thing in person
     
  8. 6inarow
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    Craft brews didnt become very popular intil about 2000. maybe later like in SD

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Blues_Brewery
     
  9. beer making started as a craft as far back as 1600 BC. it didn't become "commercial" until Becks in the 1500's.
    craft brewing is traditional.
    main stream beers are like main stream cars,...their good.........but..........there is a reason we appreciate hand made, craft, attention to detail, good parts/ingredients, non mass produced, custom,............wether it be a car, beverage, tool, machine etc..............
     
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  10. primed34
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    Just thought I'd throw this in. The easiest way to tell a mid 60's and back sbc block is the hole for the draft tube. Really enjoying this build.
     
  11. Dennis Lacy
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    You guys are way braver than me. I have a similar alternator unit (not PowerGen) and tried to simply run a thickwall tube to the rear mount and felt like it was definitely not strong enough so I made a support down to one of the intake bolts. A simple addition that adds a ton of piece of mind.

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  12. rod1
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    I just finished reading your J.J. article from yesterday Ryan,and found a mistake.Those photos are something Very Special.
     
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  13. 6inarow
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    Not trying to argue. But Bier "is a serious business" as John Milner might say.... I lived in austria for a year back in the day. They take their beer serious. Just wanted to point out commercial "craft beers" havent been commonly around for 25 years - more like 10 years. Unless you were lucky enough to stumble on one. I have been watching for them since 1974.

    Check this link out. Commercial Bier in Austria in the 11th century. There was a winery and brewery in the little town I lived in Austria as early as the 11th century too.
    http://vinepair.com/wine-blog/12-of-the-oldest-breweries-in-the-world/
     
  14. Cyclone Kevin
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    Longevity= So Very Truly Stated!!!!!!! Ed Cole who worked on both the Cadillac and the Oldsmobile V8 OHV engine projects took this baby on incorporated the best of them all which begat the "Peoples Engine".

    Then added Zora ARkus-DUNtov to the mix after his famous memo re: Hot Rod Youth and Future Performance which basically told Chevrolet Hierarchy that The youth were driving and building Ford powered Hi-Performance vehicles and there was a ready made aftermarket emerging that was ripe for the picking.

    How does one think how there were Edelbrock C-355 3x2 for the 265c.i. engine intakes similar to the 283-400 c.i. C-357 on this engine posted above and were issued about the same time that the engine was introduced? Preproduction engines were sent out to shops that made speed equipment. and that created a pretty good head start over the competition.

    The aftermarket embraced really anything that was made to improve their product line and its ability to provide customers with economical and viable performance options. Manufacturers helped the aftermarket and performance enthusiasts went out, set records and changed the world.

    There really is one engine that has survived as Ryan has stated above and Ford himself if he were still alive would probably agree as is incorporates the basic casting principals that made the Ford V8 "The Hot Rodders Engine". It's too bad that Henry II didn't think of it 1st..... Perhaps there wouldn't be so much controversy. The Chevrolet Small Block may be Large by production #'s but is side by side with the Ford Flathead as the Most Popular Traditional Engine IMHO and I make Flathead parts along with Small Block Exhaust Headers and Alt Brackets.
     
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  15. Maybe for mere Serfs.But, I brewed my first batch over 20 years ago and we were able to buy Sierra Nevada here (Est. 1979) here in the 90s and we "imported" Fat Tire (Est. 1991) on our trips to Colorado. Folks don't realize that mountain bikers have always been into fine beer.

    As for this thread, EricE? (HAMBER whose last name I forget) worked for Powergen. A few years back, he put a call out for generator cores. I sent him a couple GM/Delco gennies and I think some other folks sent him some flatty cores. In return he sent me back my choice of Powergen when they hit production. I chose a polished flatty unit, which I ended up giving to CrazyD as a thank you for all his help.

    And Ryan, it is a shame that Edelbrock developement cam went missing 15 years ago, this car would be the perfect spot for that!
     
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  16. Ryan
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    I'm sure they talk about hippy beer on Facebook... Y'all should go there!

    :)

    Anyway, Keith spent last night on knees and got the car wired... I've covered a few of his builds now and still haven't figured out a way to photograph and capture the wiring process. For the most part, it's boring as shit.

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    Motor goes in today...
     
  17. Tim
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    For the love of God please don't make him shut his own thread down for drama. You guys spend pages bitching about a sbc, resume it a couple pages later and the. Finally let it go just in time to start arguing about what beer some slick legged peddler drinks? For fucks sake pm each other or just leave it alone all together.

    I'm hesitant to even post this as it's not on topic to what this thread is actually about but you fucking guys keep pushing this thing off the rails like your afraid of seeing it go somewhere.

    Enough already.
     
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  18. Hey Tim, at least I tried to steer it back with something relevant to the thread! The gent that worked at Powergen might have been EricC. I wish I would have started printing PMs off years ago. Lost a lot of great info there.

    Ryan, does Keith wire up his harness components on the table first? Would be neat way to see how he builds components. Even a few shots of all the parts layed out on the bench.
     
  19. More wiring shots please? Especially underhood. That's where I am at on my project and I'm a wiring imbecile.
     
  20. KCTA Chris
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    Looks great! I'm involved in very traditional 327 build now so timing is perfect. Curious about the road draft tube, I encountered firewall clearance issues, now thinking about smaller rubber hose and let it hang. Whats your plan?
     
  21. Ryan
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    Our plan is to kick the shit out of that hurdle once we get to it here in a few hours! I'll post details when we get there.
     
  22. ^ Ha, mine is just chilling, blowing out shit as it pleases. Its like rustproofing. Been meaning to do something about that!
     
  23. Rand Man
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    That vintage wiring is one of the things that sold me on Keith.

    As for wheels, I only got as far as a mockup on my Model A in high school. Guess what hubcaps it had. Quite a coincidence. When you commission a Picasso or Rembrandt, you let it ride and accept your prize. Anyway, l like the setup just fine right now, but don't be surprised if I try on a different pair of shoes for fun at some point.
     
  24. Ryan
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    We still haven't tried on the caps you sent... You are gonna have a decision to make there... I love the caps that are on it, but think the caps you sent could look awfully cool too...
     
  25. bobo1
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    On my modified I put it here [​IMG]
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  26. olscrounger
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    Great looking 327!! My favorite engine. I have cut down the oil fill on several as well-looks great. As to the road draft tube you can get the fitting that takes a hose instead-they are designed for an inline PVC. Always have to do this for firewall clearance on 40's, Love the build-Keith is a wizard!!
     
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  27. SLAMIT
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    both on and off topic here about the SBC debate. Ryan you pretty much said it already, how can any other engine compare? There are other insanely cool options for engines traditionally however im sure there are numbers backing the fact that it is probably one of the most traditional hotrod engine ever.
    I am soon going to be lucky enough to start the restoration of my father in laws 56 chevy convertible. He bought the car in 59 as his High School car and to keep it short on this thread in early 62 bought a 340hp 327 from the chevy dealer and dropped it in. after about 2 years the car was parked until now and that 327 still sits between the fenders with less than 10k on it. awesome time capsule I will show off soon when it gets to my driveway.
     
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  28. Love the 327!! I searched for over a year to find a re-buildable one. It's a stock bore small journal with the small valve camel humps. I bought it from the second owner of the car when he pulled it out to put in a 350.
     
  29. I'll be looking for this coupe when I get to Austin next Thursday! :)
     
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  30. is the baffle still on the inside? and do you think oil splash will be a problem.

    Burp, excuse me, do you have a link?:D;)
     

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