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Technical 8BA in a Model A

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by NB141FD, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. steves29
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    008.JPG I used the car pumps and fabricated mount adapters with 3/8 flat stock.
     
  2. 4ce_full
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    Reviving an old thread but what have you guys with 8ba's into 30/31 frames done with the steering?

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  3. 8E233698-0464-4CBB-8D09-039EE9E5EFF6.jpeg DD6DC591-3F28-4412-8CB1-953EC8C81E67.jpeg Contact Vern Tardel,Santa Rosa,Cali. Or pick up latest issue of Rodders Journal.It “touches” the ins and outs of v8 flats into Model a cars-trucks. I think Tardel has a book pertaining to this very swap of flat v8 into model a cars-trucks. Flatheads Forever! I have over 55 years experience with v8 flatmotors,mostly from the performance aspect. My Henry 32 cabriolet hi-boy(2200 lbs) turns 80 mph in the 1/8 mile with a stock stroke Flatmotor and 2 carbs.
     
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  4. lodaddyo
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    Ford f1 box. Model a mounting flange welded to it . Stock location
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  5. Tin Lizzie
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    So what is the best combination of parts for putting an 8BA in a 28/29 Ford ?
     
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    48-52 F1 all the same
     
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  8. 4ce_full
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    Thanks for the info.
    I have been offered a 56 f100 box but dont know if it will solve my issues.

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  9. GordonC
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    The early F1 boxes have the shaft coming out the bottom and the later ones (53 to 56) have it coming out the top. I put a 1950 F1 box in my chassis and I have clearance with a stock flathead exhaust manifold. Not a lot but it doesn't hit. You do however need to put a new flange on the box...
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  10. Tin Lizzie
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    Anymore information on doing this installation ?
     
  11. 48fordnut
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    Hi all.This is right where I am going. I have a 28 roadster with a 8Ba going in. I will be using a crab dist and 37 48 new style w/p. I realize there are 2 places to plug on the block.
    Will be using a 59 a intake and heads. Would like to squeeze this in without modifying the fire wall.

    I have the chassis ready for mounts ,but don't have a F1 cross member set up or the ft m/ms welded in. I have the Tardel books but need a good dimension from the center of hole of the rad mt to the center of the m/m .
     
  12. sloppy jalopies
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    march of 1983 Street Rodder magazine had an installation of the box and adjusting the late '40s brakes.
    worth buying one...
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    also the cam gears are different,
     
  13. 48fordnut
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    I may have that book Cliff. I think I have all the differences covered, Fingers crossed.
     
  14. Red's Headers makes a specific header for F-1 steering boxes in a Model A with a flathead. They are tight but fit.
    Tardell has a booklet that shows exactly how to modify the F-1 box. I have this set up in my AV8
    And it works fine.

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  15. cederholm
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    Steves29, have any more photos? I'd love to see your fan set up.

    thanks,
    Carl

     
  16. 48fordnut
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    After seeing how good the stock exhaust manifold looks I may go that way.
     
  17. GordonC
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    48fordnut I took a grinder to those first, then bead blasted them, then heated them up to 550 degrees in the BBQ, and then sprayed them with grey VHT paint. We'll see how long they stay that way.
     
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  18. steves29
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    Sealed bearing style 3 blade fan.
    Close to rad but never a problem. Dead center of core.

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