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52 f2 brake hardware

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cabriolethiboy, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. cabriolethiboy
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    Where can I buy 52 Ford F2 brake hardware? I've got new shoes and F100 wheel cylinders coming, but I can't find anyone that has the hardware. I've tried NAPA, Advance, Car Quest, Autozone, and lots of internet sites. I could match them up if I had the old parts but all I have is bare backing plates. I have a friend that has a set Lincoln brakes, if I have to I can take them apart and match them up. Anyone know if they are the same? Or how about 12" Buick hardware?
     
  2. Flat Ernie
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    Should be able to pick the stuff up at Mac's or other Early Ford/F1/F100 places...
     
  3. cabriolethiboy
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    You can buy the F1 or F100 stuff but not the F2 parts, unless there is something I am overlooking.
     
  4. modernbeat
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    You don't want F2 hardware. The wheel cylinder only works on one shoe and relies on the "self energizing" part to work the other shoe.

    You want later model truck/van rear drum hardware that works on both shoes. I don't have the NAPA numbers, but Bob Wilson might tell you what you need.
     

  5. Flat Ernie
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    Not as much stuff as I thought - don't know where I got mine - think I just used later stuff...

    Here's what's listed in the catalog specifically for your application:

    Star Wheel, L or R, 51-56 F2, F250 (4 req'd) - B5A-2041-A
    Brake Shoe Hold Down Kit 51-55, F2, F250 (2 req'd) - C3SZ-2068-KT
    Brake Shoe Return Springs 51-60, F2, F250 (4 req'd) - C1TZ-2035
     
  6. modernbeat
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    Ernie, the only reason THOSE parts are available is because they were used on trucks for the next 35 years.
     
  7. 286merc
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    I got everything for my 54 F350 from NAPA. Sometimes they have a cutoff year listed even tho the same part was used earlier.
     
  8. Flat Ernie
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    Understood. But those are the parts he was looking for, no? He's using F100 wheel cylinders already - the springs, holddowns, & adjusters are the same (one adjuster will be backwards if converting to self-adjusting, but...).
     
  9. cabriolethiboy
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    Sounds like exactly what I need but what catalog are you talking about? NAPA?
     
  10. enjenjo
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    Those are Ford part numbers.
     
  11. Flat Ernie
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    Mac's Antique Auto Parts & enjejo is correct, they are Ford part numbers - most of the early Ford vendors use original part numbers. Don't know if NAPA can cross them or not...
     
  12. Inliner
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    The wheel cylinder box's that came with my Wilson's, which are based on the Lincolns are, "AutoStar WC13278".
    Below is says replaces: Bendix 33278, Wagner 37782, Midas 1083, EIS 39958 and Auto Spec 88009. Also says these are manufactured by CONI-SEAL INC.

    Hopefully this will give you a place to start. If you find a NAPA No., please post it.
     
  13. modernbeat
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    NAPA has a few brands, but if you plug the Wagner number into the "Search non-NAPA part numbers" blank on the NAPA website it returns two NAPA part numbers.

    Left Side = UPB36076
    Right Side = UPB36077
     
  14. cabriolethiboy
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    Thanks, My shoes and wheel cylinders came in, so when I pick them up I will see what we can do with these numbers.
     
  15. hillbillyhell
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    So didja figure anything out NAPA wise on the hardware? I'm sure some later model stuff will fit the bill, but I haven't gone looking yet....I'm running F2 backing plates with Buick drums/F100 hubs. My backing plates were of course, bare, so I need to source some adjusters, springs and whatnot.
     
  16. cabriolethiboy
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    Never did find a source for the correct parts. Maybe I am not looking in the right places, but I am out of ideas. I borrowed a buddy's Lincoln parts and matched them up with some parts that I had and I probably have enough to put together one car. The parts are all new, but they were just laying in a parts drawer, un-packaged with no part numbers. There are not very many parts there. I looked at friends 57 Cad 12" brakes over the weekend and they looked like they would work. I would feel more comfortable if I could find the correct parts. Let me know if you find anything.
     
  17. DD COOPMAN
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    6 year-old thread! DD
     
  18. the flatlander
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    I use mid 70's whl cyl's, springs, original (33) shoes,(with F2 back. plates) BUT adjuster springs are not avail ! If anyone finds a source, please let me know (too). thx the adjuster spring is 5" long overall. spring is 1.75" w/ 16 coils. Hooks are 1.5" long & turned opposite each other. good luck. Or if you have any spares, i'd buy a couple. Alan
     
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