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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oliver westlund, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. oliver westlund
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    if i use late 50s olds or Pontiac i will have to have the axles drilled to accept 5x5.5 right?
     
  2. Will be a sweet ride . WIsh I had a different engine . Mines a 350 . Have a buddy that was stpck piling some early Chrysler fire power's I would love that swap . If you run across a dash , let me know . Mine has this ugly fiberglass thing that should be on a boat.
     

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  3. oliver westlund
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    i know a guy who has a dash, i think its a 47 merc dash
     

  4. The side trims are NOT identical... While the difference is subtle, mix the two and you'll quickly see the difference. Drake is selling '48 trim. If you have '47 trim and replace a few pieces from Drake you'll be unhappy when they don't match.

    47 48 trim compare 2.jpg 47 48 trim compare 1.jpg
    '47 trim looked at end-on is teardrop shaped, '48 trim is V shaped. These are two passenger side cowl pieces, '47 on the left. This '48 piece has been 'repaired' so the peak on the V isn't quite as sharp as it's supposed to be but you can clearly see the difference from the end. The guy that sold me the '48 piece said it was the same as '47 too... nope.

    Now, Ford confused things by selling left-over '46s as '47s, and then started using '48 style trim on the late '47 models as a running change so the '47 got a reputation as a bastard year. And some parts are the same; grill, turn, and taillight trims are the same between the '47-48.
     
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  5. oliver westlund
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    i kind of like that my car is s bastard...feels more hot rod to me
     
  6. Steves46
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    Looks like I learned something new today. Thanks for pointing this out.
     
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  7. oliver westlund
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    OK new option, 1953 olds 303, my question is this....if i put a 4 barrel on it and a cam, would a factory banjo rear and torque tube and a 3 speed floor shift ttrans hold up to THAT engine? just looking for opinions. i can get a 303 olds ridiculously cheap, he has the matching olds 3 speed but he said in the 50s he would mate em to stock running gear
     
  8. Torqueeeee engine, you would have to go easy with that banjo. Either way, I would grab that 303 along with the tranny and accessories just for the future. The tranny gut can be put into a 37 buick tranny case for a killer combo that wont break easily.
     
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    can i rebuild the banjo in any type of period correct fashion to handle it?
     
  10. doubtful. It is all how you drive the car. Light 'em up and you will most likely break something.
     
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  11. oliver westlund
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    picked up a 38 ford motor and trans for 50 bucks today. output shaft gear is toast, are they all the same for 38s?
     
  12. 41rodderz
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    You keep buying parts and engines , and Springfield recyclers will be calling you. :D
     
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  13. oliver westlund
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    yeah yeah haha, im selling the flathead and the 394 olds, im gonna use the 38 trans with the 1950 303 olds i have a fella holding for me. then i promise no more mind changing! i already ordered an adapter ring
     
  14. oliver westlund
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    anybody know if all 36 ford main output shaft gears are the same? heres a pic finally 20190524_181007.jpg
     
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    new heart 20190602_151941.jpg
     
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    1950 303, the guy threw in a 53 4 barrel intake and carb
     
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  17. good find! get the drive shaft if he had it. the front yoke might be a valuable piece. Last one I grabbed years ago with F&J down in MA fit the 50 Olds standard tranny. They are rare and expensive.
    My first rod back in '62 was a 47 coupe with a junk yard 50 303 hooked to a Lincoln 38-39 tranny. As kids we drove the pants off that thing and never blew up anything, which amazes me today.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. oliver westlund
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    im sure he has em, he has 3 of everything it seems like, super nice guy too. im running a 36 ford tranny and torque tube though
     
  19. rusty rocket
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    36 tranny is not a synchronized unit. Seems like you are going backwards with the tranny choice. Just my two cents.
     
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  20. Hombre
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    I agree with "rocket" you may want to rethink that tranny, lots of better choices.
     
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  21. oliver westlund
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    i think it has later guts, that or i decoded the serial number wrong
     
  22. oliver westlund
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    heres the guts out of mine 20190603_112802.jpg
     
  23. oliver westlund
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    tranny was pulled from a 32 that had a 38 flatty in it. also happened to have the throwout rod for my 47 with the pinched tab on the end coincidentally. itll work for me for now, paid 50 bucks for the motor and trans. selling the motor for 80 so i got paid 30 to have this tranny. im aiming my build date for 1952, thats the earliest my parts will allow
     
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  24. oliver westlund
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    pics of the days ef fart, biggest pain in the butt automatic trans ive ever had to pull 20190603_162401.jpg 20190603_170248.jpg
     
  25. oliver westlund
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    cracked open humpty today, top end is surprisingly nice, cam lobes look decent. pretty darn clean for an engine that hasnt been open since 1950! im gonna do rings, main bearings, gaskets, timing chain and water pump unless i find some nightmare in the bottom. paint her up nice and factory only upgrade being the 53 4 barrel intake and carb which could technically also be from 52 which is why im dating my build in a 1952 traditional theme. she will be a bit of a sleeper (or wouldve been in 52 at least) cut off gas fill neck lakes in the fenders and a nice quiet exhaust otherwise. i believe a 36 ford 3 speed with later guts cause it has synchros and a 47 throwout rod, skinny white wall bias plys up front and either slightly wider bias plys in back (what it currently has) or cheater slicks, skinny ones of course, black laqcuer paint. all trim and hood ornament installed, white tuck n roll interior 20190606_102541.jpg 20190606_104701.jpg 20190603_133742.jpg
     
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