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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lonestar395, May 4, 2015.

  1. lonestar395
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    We have an annual vehicle inspection.

    You have touched on some thoughts I won't discuss here...Don't want you to think I am flying under the radar.





    This thread was never intended to be a build thread, merely an abstract discussion on the merits of the original stuck flathead 6/Fluid drive transmission and it has got out of hand already.
    There were images posted earlier that showed the essence of what was involved in placing the Jaguar front end. I am now happy this is the way it has evolved...it will be a more usable vehicle because of it.
     
  2. lonestar395
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    This car has clearly had a heavy impact in the R/H quarter panel decades ago, the front half of the rear quarter/sill section/"B" pillar and part of the inner wheel-house and body mount has been grafted in from another donor vehicle...It would be easy to criticize the repair method used, however this side-track to deal with the resulting rust and poor door fit simply adds to the character of the car...it has also had a R/H door skin and a R/H rear fender installed at that time...still carries the part numbers stenciled on the inside of the panel.


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  3. lonestar395
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    The inner sill has been welded in, and the outer sill is trial fitted for trimming and welding


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  4. MacTexas
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    Looking good. I like 46 thru 48 Chrysler products.
     
  5. lonestar395
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    Some progress today, mostly paving the way to get the sill and floor section welded in tomorrow


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  6. inthweedz
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    Here in New Zealand, all vehicles have a "Warrant of Fitness" check to make sure they are road worthy. Depending on year of manufacture, it can be every 6 months to 3 yearly.
    ANY modified vehicle, be it a Jappa, truck, hot rod, sports car, handicapped vehicle, anything that has been modified since it was first produced, has to be certified (checked over by approved NZHRA inspectors).
    And fitted with a "Cert plate" listing all the mods, fitted to the fire wall before it can be registered and warranted.. A few car owners get a warrant of fitness, then modify their cars, but get nabbed when the take it for a wof.. And seeing as older cars need a wof every 6 months, it sorts out the problem..
     
  7. lonestar395
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    The R/H sill and floor is completed...the lower quarter panel section will be shaped when I complete the L/H side.

    It will be Deja Vu, there is the same amount of rust over there, just not the poor previous repair in the lower quarter...

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  8. 73RR
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    ...if you weren't so damned far away I'd put you to work on my 47 Suburban....

    Did you make the new floor pans and rockers or did you find a vendor??

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  9. lonestar395
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    I didn't realize there was a vendor for these parts...they probably wouldn't fit anyway.

    This car will be driven out of the workshop, and apart from machine work on the engine, everything will be done right here...
     
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  10. rust&patina
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    Wow . . . you do some NICE work . . .
     
  11. lonestar395
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    This is the L/H floor, I thought this side had less rust through...wrong

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    This is the floor 2 Hours later

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    The cross members after rust removal

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    Sometimes we have to be cruel to be kind, the L/H lower quarter panel has been removed to enable us to replace the complete sill (Rocker), both the inner and outer

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    You need to be careful of what you wish for, I believe we can speak stuff into existence...Just get the Suburban down to Long Beach, CA. and I will ship it over here and get it done...Right now, we are at 0.76 Cents to the US Dollar. There is a precedent where high end cars have been shipped to Australia and New Zealand for reconstruction by some very skilled artisans with a good attitude, and cheaper than you would imagine.


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  12. 73RR
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    Your work is an inspiration to all !!

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  13. lonestar395
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    The cruelty of cutting off an apparently clean L/H lower quarter panel is rewarded with the ability to abrasive blast the hidden rust shown here, plus the original goal of providing access to replace the full rocker panel


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    Rusted crush tubes in hidden areas also get dealt with while the area is opened


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    This is what is left of the R/H lower quarter panel, inner and outer rocker panels, floor and lower B pillar area after the rusted sections have been removed


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    The fitting of replacement sections that we have fabricated begins in the reverse sequence that they were removed...all areas are coated with Zinc-rich weld-through primer prior to spot-welding


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    A cross-brace under the floor area was re-worked to clear the brake booster/ master cylinder...this area is hidden under the seat


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  14. lonestar395
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    Hope your floors aren't like these...big input of time here.
     
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  15. casper50
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    Mine are at least that bad most likely worse.
     
  16. lonestar395
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    The R/H rear floor section has been shaped and prepared for fitting, weld through primer will prevent future rust in these areas


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    The front floor section will be shaped next, concluding the floors and rockers

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    Finalizing the lower quarter panels will make the body solid again

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  17. casper50
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    Wish these panels were available. I am sending whats left of my floor to a patter maker next week to get new ones made.
     
  18. lonestar395
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    I am hoping you can post up some photos of what you have, it would be good to see where you go with yours...
     
  19. casper50
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    IMG_0440.JPG IMG_0441.JPG IMG_0442.JPG here's the photos I promised.
     
  21. lonestar395
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    Is this car from a salt area, or do they all rust in those sections.
     
  22. casper50
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    Mostly all rust there if not from really dry areas such as Arizona, California and New Mexico.
     
  23. lonestar395
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    My `47 came from the high desert...Bend, Oregon. I guess there would be a couple feet of snow slowly dripping in through the cracked window gaskets when it melts in Spring, then soaking into the stuff under the rubber floor mats and corroding it's way through. All the cavities under the floors were half full of fine gravel and dirt also.
    You have significantly more rust to deal with, it will be a test...
     
  24. casper50
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    I found another 47 coupe in a Colorado junkyard that for $150 cut both good rockers from the front body mount rearward to the rear wheelwell. Rear quarters included 18 " high and the under floor braces and 18" of floor. The rockers rear quarters and braces are in pretty good to excellent shape, the floor has it's problems also. That's why I need the floor panels. I foresee lots of welding in my future.
     
  25. lonestar395
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    What is your process to have floor pans, making rocker panels was less work than creating the floors.
     
  26. daliant
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    Been there, done that... The floors and rockers in my 46 plymouth were almost non existent. Nice job on the fab work.
     
  27. casper50
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    going to have the floor pans made.
     
  28. casper50
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    Found someone that makes these. Decent to speak to on the phone. Seems really willing to help a person.
     

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