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4 speed top loader stuck in gear?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 36tudordeluxe, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. 36tudordeluxe
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
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    Have a rebuilt 4 speed top loader out of a 390 Fairlane that is now in my '36. The car is up on jack stands with no driveshaft. Put the trans in gear to see if shift lever would clear bottom of dash and now trans is stuck in gear. Any suggestions, maybe try & turn trans yoke somehow............just guessing here.
     
  2. JohnEvans
    Joined: Apr 13, 2008
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    from Phoenix AZ

    Improper lingage adjustment ? Picking more than 1 gear at atime.. If you can access the top of the trans pull the cover for a look see.
     
  3. 36tudordeluxe
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    Should have mentioned it's been converted to a Jeep top shifter, no side linkage.
     
  4. Fullfendered
    Joined: May 8, 2010
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    Same thing happened with my top loader and jeep shifter. The original 1-2 fork is brass, it wears out to where the shift handle disengages from the fork. Aftermarket forks have steel insert to prevent this. Google Jeep T176 transmission to get a diagram of shifter housing set up. Remove the housing cap and take out the shift handle, should be able to look inside and see if fork is worn. Worse case remove entire shifter housing from transmission.
     

  5. mustang6147
    Joined: Feb 26, 2010
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    from Kent, Ohio

    With the engine off, have someone roll the car forward and back as your jiggling the shifter... Not a lot of forward and back pressure, just to jostle the tranny enough to let it pop out of where its stuck. That's what I used to do on an old tranny.
     
  6. 36tudordeluxe
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    Will try the above mentioned, thanks.
     
  7. Jimmy2car
    Joined: Nov 26, 2003
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    from No. Cal

    The Jeep top shift mechanism has a few issues.
    The forks can become loose on the shift shafts.
    The fix for mine was to have the forks silver soldered
    to the shafts, as you cannot weld or braze them.
    Next, since the housing is aluminum, there is no way
    to compensate for wear, other than to refit the support
    bars.
    No matter what I've done, I cannot get the thing to
    shift rapidly. But I still love it.
     
  8. 36tudordeluxe
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
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    Jimmy, had I known the short comings of the Jeep shifter I would have gone with a 5 speed like everyone else and saved myself some headaches. Thanks for your input.
     
  9. 36tudordeluxe
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
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    Have been unable to unstick it; if I remove shift cover housing with it stuck would that be a mistake? How do I find neutral with cover & shift lever removed?
     
  10. Scott De Shields
    Joined: Mar 23, 2011
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    Remove the shifter assembly and slide the forward gear that the fork fits into until you find neutral. Make sure forks are in the neutral position on the shifter assembly.
     
  11. 40FordGuy
    Joined: Mar 24, 2008
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    What about getting a new Jeep shifter?

    4TTRUK
     
  12. 36tudordeluxe
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
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    36tudordeluxe
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    Okay, removed shift lever and poked big screwdriver down the tower & got gate realigned and now it is back in neutral. Reinstalled shift lever and now there doesn't seem to be a problem, keeping my fingers crossed. As for a new shifter complete the cost is almost prohibitive as far as I'am concerned. Am in over $300 in my used one now. Thanks everyone for your help, don't know what I would do without the "Barn."
     

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