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Technical 4-Banger Police Head Question

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by dicer2000, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. dicer2000
    Joined: May 25, 2016
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    My grandpa's Model A has a police head (he thinks). It is on his Model B engine. We're hoping someone can give us more information on it.
    Such as, who made it (was it original Ford equipment)?
    Does it give higher compression?
    Was it only available at high altitudes?
    What kind of horse power does it add?

    Thanks for any insight you can give.
     

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  2. tubman
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    I know nothing about this, but I have to ask : are there any markings or other physical indications that it is not a stock head? Is there anything other than grandpa's proclamation?
     
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  3. 32phil
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    Looks like a B block (like you said) and a stock(I think ) Model A head. I'm not sure what the big letter B means.
    It may be a hi po head of some kind.
    Try going on the Ford Barn and posting your question in the Model A section ....
    Those guys know EVERYTHING about Models As.
     
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  4. dicer2000
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    "Not necessarily" he says. However, there is a small triangle that he believes helps to identify it. Obviously, there is also the "B" and a "5" stamped in the head. He got it from Martin Auto Salvage in Greeley, CO out of a police car.
     
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  5. The big letter "B" was used to identify it as a high compression head produced by Ford. The head was originally sold to police departments but later released to the general public. You can find more at: http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABcylinderheadcomparison.htm

    Charlie Stephens
     
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  6. dicer2000
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    Charlie, I should have guessed that you would answer my "A" question. I think you answer all my questions! The funny thing is that my Grandpa's last name is Stephens (Ken) from Lamar, CO. Do you have any relations from that part of the country?
     
  7. dwollam
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    Yep, B engine with Model A high compression "police head" with the correct B lettering. Model B engines had a "C" cast on the head. Makes for plenty of confusion. B engine has different water pump than A. "B" high compression head uses Model A water pump. Cloudy enough yet?
     
  8. dicer2000
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    Thanks everyone. Great info!
     
  9. 5280A2
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    Compression ratio is 5.2:1 compared to 4.2:1 for the stock A head.
     
  10. Truck64
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    ^^^ You'll never catch me Coppers!! Muhuhaaha!
     
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  11. Fred A
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    Seem to many that the one point increase is a small improvement, but as often happens, it is the design of the chamber that is in the vein of the model B design but twice the compression increase of the model B. It is easy to see where the confusion between the 1932 introduced Model B, marked with a big C, and the 1930 intro of the "police" head, marked with a big B. I like the "police" head because it works well for my use of the manual advance of the Model A distributor. That manual control can confuse a driver without an understanding of spark advance. Many heads have been made and even currently available new with much higher compression making riding the spark manually, more difficult, risking destructive pinging. Estimating an increase in power is a product of a much more complex and likely optimistic guess. For the last 50 years I have used the "police" heads as a first choice for a modest but manageable improvement but also favor Model B cam and carburetor as a streetable minimum while a downdraft V8 carb is the next real improvement making the bargain Chandler Groves 94 right for me. Good Luck: Fred A
     
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