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'35-6-7 Ford trucks-swap grilles?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeem, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. Jeem
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    Is it a bolt for bolt swap or not even close to put a '35 or '36 grille shell on a '37 PEE CUP?
     
  2. bdrake
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    Now why would you want to do a thing like that :)

    The fenders are the same so no problem there.
    The inner fender panels are different on the '37 so those would need to be swapped out.
    Then you would need to mess with the hood panels. Since the '37 cowl is different the older hood would not be a bolt-in and the stock one would most likely be to long.

    Here are some cropped pics of the grille to fender on a '36 and and on my '37 truck. The '36 grille has more contact with the fender while the '37 uses around half the contact. A quick glance at the inner fender panels look the same but they are different to make up for how the grille meets the fender.

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    Cheers,
     
  3. pasadenahotrod
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    I would guess because the 37 Pickup Grille is the most desireable and expensive grille for a Ford Commercial vehicle, bar none.
     
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  4. Jeem
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    Thanks Bill, exactly the info I was looking for.

    So, if I bolt up a '36 grille and inner fender panels to the '37 and modify the leading area of the 37 hood tops, I'd be set? I'm thinking of making new hood sides anyway.

    Not even sure which grille I prefer anyway. I'll be looking and wanted to know if I could snatch up a '35 or 6 to use.
     
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  5. Roothawg
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    The 35 is the narrowest (depth wise), the 36 gives you more room for a radiator but the 35 looks racier.
     
  6. bdrake
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    Yea, looks like the hood would be the only problem area. A little trimming, maybe a little welding should make everything right. Works good on the drawing board!

    So did you buy a '37? It took me three '37 grilles to piece together the one on my truck. Didn't want to fork out the green for one of those nice ones.
     
  7. Jeem
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    Good to know.

    Bill, the deal will go down soon. I'm pretty excited, actually. I've been forewarned about the grille situation, but I'm just stupid enough uhh, I mean motivated enough to proceed with it....
     
  8. TUDORTOBY
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    Hey guys. I just bought a 36 pickup that was too cheap to pass up. I have two 36 grilles (both are rough). I like the 35 grille better, and since I don't have a radiator yet anyway, I'm thinking of running a 35 grille on my 36. My question is, would the 35 grille work with my 36 hood and fenders?
     

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  9. Budget36
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    Yes, it will work. But note that the front fenders you have are '36 (at least the one on the left it, can't see the bottom of the one on the right). Close up shot of yours doors will tell what they are as well.
    Also appear to be '36 hood sides too.

    Take real good care of the rear fenders, really hard to find.

    Edit:

    I'm an idiot, for some reason I read your post as buying a '35.

    Carry on ;)
     
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  10. TUDORTOBY
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    Thanks for the info! Yes the doors are 36 as well as both fenders. All four fenders have been repaired multiple times... the rears are pretty rough but they will haft do for now. Build thread will be coming soon.
     
  11. If you use the '35 shell you need the thinner '35 radiator or similar. '36 rad is much thicker in the top tank area.
     
  12. Roothawg
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    Swing by the shop if you are ever in OKC....if ya wanna talk 35-36 stuff.
     
  13. TUDORTOBY
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    ^^^ yeah I'll probably just have to break down and buy a new radiator. I'm guessing they a different from the passenger car radiators.
     
  14. TUDORTOBY
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    OK will do man thanks. Obviously I'll be in the market for a 35 grille and various other parts. So if any thing pops up, hit me up.
     
  15. Roothawg
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    The radiators are the same 35-36.
     
  16. TUDORTOBY
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    For all or pickups only?
     
  17. Roothawg
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    Pickups only. I have no idea about pass cars.
     
  18. TUDORTOBY
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    OK. Appreciate the info man.
     
  19. This is not my experience......had a '36 pu in the shop the owner wanted to swap a '35 shell onto. No go, the top tank sticks out forward of the core a couple inches. Not an issue with the deeper '36 shell.
    Pretty sure it was the original rad on the truck...everything else fit perfect.
     
  20. Roothawg
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    I just mocked up a 35 shell with a 36 radiator, then swapped to a 36. I did have some issues, between different grilles. But, the Ford part number was the same for both years.
     
  21. 1946caddy
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    The 35 cross member has one mounting hole while the 36 has two different mounting holes for the radiator.
     
  22. Roothawg
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    This is true.
     
  23. Ks Muleskinner
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    The Ford chassis parts book lists 4 different part numbers for 35-36 pickup radiators; same part number 51-8005, with 4 different suffixs. A=1935, B=1935 extra cooling, C=1936 and D=1936 extra cooling.
     
  24. 28rp
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    I have all three radiators mentioned-35,36 & 37 in my shop. They are all markedly different to look at. I also have both 35 & 36 grilles and they don't fit any radiator other than the one they are meant too. All these were gathered up to suit my too long in storage 35 pickup.
     
  25. irishsteve
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    Ive seen 37"-38"s with 37 pass car front sheet metal.Not a bad look.
     

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