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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 33Doll, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. More pics is always better,,,,very good job .
    And always remember,,,with welding,,,,it’s ,,,practice, practice , practice .
    You are definitely getting better .

    Tommy
     
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  2. Truckcab79
    Joined: Jan 17, 2020
    Posts: 5

    Truckcab79

    Loving this build. Keep it up and the more pictures the better please.
     
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  3. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Thanks Guys!
    I am learning as I go, and figure the more I share, we can learn together, in case someone else is starting out with something similar. Plus, besides my Pop, no body I know around me is into Hotrods anymore, so its nice to share with you guys!
    Thanks Rick:)
     
  4. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    More Puzzle piece making!
    “Forced Patience”
    on these final phases, spending a few days just on this corner Business!
    Trial fit, over and over. Just want it done damn it! I know.. it will be worth it!
    Keep y’all posted! IMG_9088.JPG IMG_9089.JPG IMG_9090.JPG
     
  5. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Alrighty then!
    I’m taking a break for a few days!
    Im in the home stretch now! Feeling good! 1 more Triangle patch left’
    And a few more welds! And I be done with the driver side! That aftermarket patch fits really well.
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  6. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,143

    alchemy
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    I can see the improvements in your patching technique just in this thread. Looking great!
     
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  7. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    I’m trying not to look at this right now, but its staring at me.... I want to just fix the outer edge, and not replace the whole damn thing, and do all that fitting, and manipulating the aftermarket metal to fit. Plus I’m cheap,
    I can form pieces to fit into in there!
    STOP IT Rick! Just finish the Darn quarter’s first! ....it’s looking at me...... IMG_9124.JPG [​IMG]
     
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  8. sliceddeuce
    Joined: Aug 15, 2017
    Posts: 2,982

    sliceddeuce
    Member

    Nice work.
     
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  9. CC-Mo
    Joined: Oct 13, 2019
    Posts: 30

    CC-Mo

    So the rockers probably need replaced but the inner structure will probably clean up?
    Thinking out loud here because my '33 coupe rockers look the same (after the putty is removed).
    I'm seeing bubbles in paint hiding the truth..
    Keep up the good work, you're an inspiration.
     
  10. 37 caddy
    Joined: Mar 4, 2010
    Posts: 297

    37 caddy
    Member
    from PEI Canada

    I wouldnt patch those rockers,just replace them with new ones,the repro ones have the cutouts for the trim screws.Buy the panels and see how they fit,then cut the old ones off,it will be a much better job.I have the same car as yours,it has very similar rust as well,be careful welding it together,so it doesnt warp and your doors wont fit,the body should be bolted down so it doesnt move,it is possible to change the geometry of it. Harvey
     
  11. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,143

    alchemy
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    Yes, replace the rocker outer panels. As stated, there are some good ones with all the correct flanges, so it will basically be removing the old ones at the spot welds and spotting the new ones back on. And if you cleaned the stuff up properly beforehand, you might find you only need to replace a segment. Sandblast and see how far the rot goes. May be solid for the back half.
     
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  12. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    I guess $95 is Affordable enough for me!
    Have any of you guys heard Of or used towels sheet metal? Everything seems to be made for Coupes and roadsters.
    Some say coops and sedans are the same some don’t? I’m confused.
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  13. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    I mean Howells!
     
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  14. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 16,923

    gimpyshotrods
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    There are a bunch of threads here about them.

    You really should do a search, read them, and decide for yourself.
     
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  15. 37 caddy
    Joined: Mar 4, 2010
    Posts: 297

    37 caddy
    Member
    from PEI Canada

    I have heard different things about them,their panels are supposed to be good,customer service is only so-so.appaently E-bay is the best way to go,if they have it listed it ships out quick,otherwise you may be in for a wait.:( Once you repair a rusty spot with a good fitting repair panel,you will never want to make your own again,even if money is tight. Harvey
     
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  16. dudley32
    Joined: Jan 2, 2008
    Posts: 2,058

    dudley32
    Member

    I've bought some stuff from them, but only off eBay.
     
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  17. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    alchemy
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    Howells doesn't stamp those rockers, so find another vendor selling the same part.
     
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  18. cornfield county
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
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    cornfield county
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    from Indiana

  19. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Hey there!
    Guess what? I’ve had my Lincoln Meg Welder for about 10 years now, and I never looked in my stash but apparently it came with a .025 Starter roll LOL so now I can do the Outer sheet metal with that and I got copper for the back to so I should be good now! Now that I’m used to .030 on everything, .025 should be pretty easy I imagine for the sheet metal!
    Will find out today! Adjustments.JPG
     
  20. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    @sdroadster
    Boy that .025 wire I found that you suggested, (.023) really worked good on the outer sheet-metal! I almost look like I know what I’m doing, I’m afraid to weld the back because of warpage but I got lucky so far, so I think as long as I just take my time it should be fine, I’d like to have that extra metal back there so later bodywork/sanding, wont it wear through!
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    I haven’t made the triangle piece yet, I want to get all the welding done front and back as much as possible first, and then put that in last, that way I can get hammers,dolly’s, and things through the hole while I’m working on it.
     
  21. dudley32
    Joined: Jan 2, 2008
    Posts: 2,058

    dudley32
    Member

    Looking Good !!
     
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  22. alchemy
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    Weld the back? You don't need to weld the backside too.
     
  23. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
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    Stogy
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    What's love got to do with it?...Everything...33doll...Freddy Flintstone NO More coming up!!...;)
     
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  24. sdroadster
    Joined: Jul 27, 2006
    Posts: 282

    sdroadster
    Member

    Your welds look much better. The 025 wire melts much faster, and you get a cleaner, and hotter weld. Play with the wire speed, and amperage until you get good penetration when pulling the trigger as fast as you can. Nail it, nail it, nail it. Your looking much better.
     
  25. CC-Mo
    Joined: Oct 13, 2019
    Posts: 30

    CC-Mo

    Nice. Metal where rust used to be.
    Once panel work is done, what's the plan to clean everything else up? Bead blast? Soda?
    I've heard some guys use aluminum oxide?
     
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  26. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Stripping by hand!
    And put the patina back like I originally was gonna do, similar to this:
    A little less primer showing though
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  27. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Selling my old rear fenders, and extra windshield/ header panel to buy new rockers, and what ever else I might need, metal wise.
    (If anyone is the Sacramento area I put em on CL)

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    Glad the cal is still good!

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  28. sliceddeuce
    Joined: Aug 15, 2017
    Posts: 2,982

    sliceddeuce
    Member

    Nice work. Carry on.
     
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  29. When I Mig butt weld sheet metal, I leave between a 1/32" - 1/16" gap between the panels for better penetration and no fear of grinding the outside weld down and losing any strength in the weld. Been using .030 wire since I learned 35 + years ago, but have friends who like .023 better for thin stuff. Just a matter of how you get the feel of things. I was just too lazy to change spools and tips and stuck with .030.
     
  30. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 382

    33Doll

    Finally Done with the driver side!
    Gonna
    Flip the car around and start on the passenger side!
    Pissed my .025 roll came apart and jammed into a rats nest!

    Ended up welding the back side, anyway Feel alot better!

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