History 26-27 roadsters without cowl panels

looking for more pictures of 26=27 roadsters with abbreviated cowl panels.seems to be a very common mod to lakes roadsters in the 40's and 50's.i would really like to see these cars without hoods so we can see how the firewalls were made, if they even had one.here's one.notice how the hood goes all the way back.

 

also any ideas on wheelbase would be cool.they appear to have shortend wheel bases.

 

one more

 

Hope this helps. My salt car. The cowl is shorted quite a bit.
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Hope this helps. My salt car. The cowl is shorted quite a bit.
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As if it wasn't already tight enough inside a T!

 

My guess is they just laid the hood over the stock cowl, in an attempt at a better aero deal. Maybe ir is something related to the 28-29 vs 30-31 Roadster rules were the 28-29 has an advantage because the cowl section unbolts. Bob

 

<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> The Cooper Hayes car has been in a private collection for years. I'll contact the owner and see if I can get some dimensions. The metal craftsman were the key to the fabrication of these cars. In other words there were no blueprints. Art Ingeles did the tin work on several of these cars, while they look similar the cars were all different, if you know where to look. I can't imagine anyone excluding a firewall. My vote is to build a car that fits your needs, some of the early designs were an experiment at best. Keep in mind wheelbase could be your friend, 110" + will help your polar moment of inertia.

 

Never seen this concept until this thread. It actually makes sense if you are trying to get the motor further back, but what about shifter placement?

 

navarro...

 

I would stick around 100-106" if you want the old-timey look. Stock was 100". Mine doesn't have an abbreviated cowl, but the wheelbase is 104" if that gives you any help...

 

any info would be great thanks.

 

AWESOME PIC.NAVARRO CAR IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES.

 

not that this helps much, but there was one in "the best of R & C since 53" anniversary issue with a 38 willys nose--the seat has been pushed back. I always loved the way it looked with the willys clip. lost the mag in one of my moves. maybe someone will find it and post it here

 

cool idea man! go for it!

 

WOW!!!! I have been wondering what happened to the Cooper/Hayes roadster, then bam I read this thread & find out the roadster still exists, so cool. I know it is a long shot, but any pics? This has made my day.

 

Here are some examples

 

I caught a couple pics of this ol' LSR at the 2011 GNRS. I don't know if I'd fit comfortably, but it sure looks good.

 

subscribed! cool pictures that red is tit's!

 

Interesting topic, thanks!

 

Interesting motor, extra port...was that a reverse rotation motor like the Tucker Brothers'? Was there a crank driven supercharger on it?
Just curious...about the "Jimmy" photos

 

jimmy,i don't know where you get the info and pics you have from,but you never fail to blow my mind.thanks for posting on this and many other threads.love your roadster.