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Hot Rods 1950 chieftan engine swap problems

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dogwalkin, May 27, 2023.

  1. dogwalkin
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    I'm in the middle of swapping the straight 8 in my 1950 chieftan out for a 350 pontiac. I've hit 1 major snag and I can't seem to come up with a good solution. The driver side manifold wants to live where the 605 steering box is. If you have one of these or have done this swap what did you do? I feel like I'm missing something simple. Thanks
     
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  3. s55mercury66
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    I can't remember where that dumps, center or toward the end but you may be able to find one that dumps where you want, or find a right side manifold that does. Has it really been 40 plus years since I owned a Pontiac?
     
  4. dogwalkin
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  5. BJR
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    Whatever your 2nd post was the links do not work.
     
  6. dogwalkin
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    They were links to my gallery showing the manifold and the steering box
     
  7. dogwalkin
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    I hope I made them public let me know if they don't show up
     
  8. I think the manifolds are a mirror pattern between sides, can you use a right manifold on the left side to dump at the front? How about shifting the engine and tranny over about an inch?
     
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  9. dogwalkin
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    I may try the front dump I have extra manifolds. Pontiac did that on the later cars.

    I would have to notch the xframe if I shifted it. That could be done as well.
     
  10. BJR
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    Can you just grind in some clearance in the steering box and the manifold? Will the exhaust pipe clear if you can get the manifold to clear?
     
  11. dogwalkin
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    The exhaust pipe would clear no problem. I don't think I could grind the box that much but.... I put a passenger side manifold on that side and have plenty of clearance. Muffler shop is just gonna have to do a tight bend.
     
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  12. Johnny Gee
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    That’s what u-bends or donut’s are for if they can’t bend tight.
     
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  13. 31Apickup
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    Do you have room to move the engine over, it doesn’t need to been in the center.
     
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  14. dogwalkin
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    I could move it over I would just have to do some work on the x frame or the driveshaft would hit
     
  15. dogwalkin
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    If I opened up the center of the xframe an inch or so I would probably have room. I wouldn't think that would weaken anything.
     
  16. Jmountainjr
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    Like many factory installations, it's common in many engine swaps to offset to the passenger side an 1" or so.
     
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  17. Rickybop
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    Sounds like you got it figured out. In any case, I would shoot for as much clearance as possible.
    The engine moves and you don't want any chance of making contact with anything. And I sure don't like the idea of boiling the steering gear lube. Or the starter, for that matter.

    Good luck. Have fun.
    Happy Memorial Day.
     
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  18. bangngears
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    Scoot the engine over a 1/2 inch. it does not need to be perfectly centered.
     
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