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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by erlomd, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. KKrod
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  2. Six Ball
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    I like that term. There are so many places here where it fits.
     
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  3. From what I understand it was Duke's design like his windscreen for '28-'29.

    John Stimac pics

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  4. KKrod
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    Thanks for the information Jimmy. The dash and gauges look fitting for the car. He was very lucky to get the body, dash and gauges, and windshield. The windshield is a work of art.
     
  5. Woodsie
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    A few pics of my roadster.
     

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  6. tfeverfred
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    Oh. My. Gawd.
    Perfect.

    In the first pic, notice how the exhaust sweeps back in a sweet flow. Sexy is an understatement. Notice the absolute perfect amount of wheel well showing above the rear wheel. Check out the height of the headlight in ratio to the front tire.



    THIS is what ALL you traditional Hot Rodders should have tacked above your bathroom mirror.

    P.S. Do you see, in the second pic, how the ass end is elevated juuuust enough, so the quick change is in view? It's like I'm looking at the centerfold of a 1959 issue of "Playboy". Yea. Perfect.
     
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  7. Well said, Fred; would agree he nailed the look!
     
  8. Squablow
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    Hoping it's cool to ask here, this seems like a knowledgeable group. First I'm wondering when flathead headers like these would have been first available. I realize that a guy could have made them at any point being that they're just tubing but I'm wondering what the earliest use of this style would be, as they would fit my chassis really well but I don't want to spoil the period of it. I think this picture is from 1959, hoping these were around before then.

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    My second question is when pre-made lake pipes were first sold in catalogs. I'd like to use a big section of one as part of my exhaust (was a Christmas gift when I was 15 so it has some sentimental value). It's just a long piece of chromed tube with a bend and a flange at the end so again, I could pass it off as "fabricated" but it's really not so I'm wondering if anyone can nail down a period on those as well

    Thanks in advance. Pics are hugely appreciated as I like to save those for future reference.
     
  9. The Barney Navarro modified (pictured here in 1948) used some that are similar.
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  10. Sandy Belond's shop ad in the Oct '48 issue of Hot Rod
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  11. @Squablow I just checked the Bell Auto Parts catalogue from 1951 and Belond W style was available.

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    Thanks much appreciated. Ceterfold of playboy that's funny. I like that.
     
  13. tfeverfred
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    "Funny"? Playboy magazine made millions from "cheeky" shots. AKA a Vargas shot. Notice the curves.

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  14. Ah Vargas; master of the feminine form...........
    But, back to vintage headers.........
     
  15. Late to the Party
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    I really like those "swoopy" pipes!
     
  16. Late to the Party
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    p.s. -- I meant the ones on the car, not the Vargas girl. (Although those aren't bad either.) ;)
     
  17. Squablow
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    Big thanks to JimmyB and GWhite for the info on the headers, that's exactly what I was looking for.

    My car is far from finished yet so I hesitate to add pics here but this is what the headers in question are going on. I think as it sits it is completely in-period for this thread, but keep in mind the body is just sitting on there and a lot of parts aren't on it yet. I do have a Sharp 2x2 intake with carbs to swap on and I have a similar ad saved showing Sharp casting intakes and advertising them in '48 so I think that'll fly too.

    These are the best pics I've got, shitty cell pics but gives a general idea. You can see how the current exhaust doesn't do much for the car. The gas tank stands vertically behind the cab and the top of it protrudes through the turtle deck, that's what the big cutout is for.

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  18. @Squablow your roadster does belong in this thread as is. It has been a long time since I saw pics of your roadster, such a bitchin' little rod.
     
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  19. Agree 100%! Wasn't sure how the earlier turtle hull was going to match with the sleeker 26-7 tub, but you did a bang-up job...wow. Has the look of a mid to late 40's dirt tracker. I'd be tempted to put some roundy-round style nerfs on both ends and the sides!
     
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    Thanks guys, that means a lot.

    I actually had a cool old chromed nerf bar that I was saving for this project but it just didn't fit right. I like that look, if it would have worked out I would have used it for sure.
     
  21. gnichols
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    Anyone know more about the light-colored aero gizmolene (nr 10?) in the upper right photo? Gary
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  22. gnichols
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    Just wondering, who might still hold the rights to Mr. Maanum's art work? Family? SCTA? Anyone know? Gary

     
  23. gnichols
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    Anyone know how this flat tow rig is set up? Looks like a centerline connecting point and then some sort of links to get the steering to follow along. Or? (not as in Orr!) Gary
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    Hey squablow, I dont mean to get this thread off track but i really love your roadster and Im building one very similar to it. How difficult is it to adapt the early turtle deck to the later body?
     
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  25. Squablow
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    Thanks. Here's a link to my terrible build thread and a couple pics. I actually did a lot of cutting to the deck, I added 2 1/4" of width to either side of the trunklid, I also had to add an inch of length to acoomodate my gas tank, which threw off the height, so it's now an inch taller at the front. I did have to reshape the front piece to match the back of the cab, but my cab back panel is a fab'd replacement so on a good original that might not be necessary.

    I think the width really helps, it looked tiny in stock size compared to the '26 tub, plus the added size lined it up with the stock width A frame rails better, but if it didn't have to hold my gas tank and if it matched up to the back panel better, that's probably all I would have done.

    I'm terrible at explaining things, here's pics and a link.

    This was stock width, just notched out for my tank. You can see how narrow it looks, and it's not wide enough to meet the frame rails.

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    Here's an in progress shot showing the cuts. The width part was easy, the length part was only necessary with my gas tank, and the change in angle was to match my cab which was not an original panel so might not be necessary.

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    Here's my thread on it.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/26-t-roadster-build-thread.851873/
     
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  26. tfeverfred
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    Elegant in it's simplicity. Beautiful.
     
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  27. @Squablow I have been thinking why I like your car so much, this morning it hit me. In 1947 there was no longer a modified class on the lakes, it was Roadster or Streamliner. Your roadster looks like it could have been a modified in '46 and to run with the roadsters the early turtle deck was added and the fuel tank sticking out is a by product of it former modified life. It really has the look.
     
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  28. Squablow
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    I'm flattered, very nice of you to say. I thought I had it saved but I had a period picture of another roadster without a box or deck on it, parked sideways on a dirt road, that was the spitting image of my car the way the previous owner had it set up (and credit where due, he's the guy that built the chassis, made all the body subrails, just a ton of work already done nicely when I got it). Long straight frame rails behind the body with a gas tank and no bodywork but not shortened or stepped.

    I'm pretty sure the car in the picture also eventually gained a deck or a PU box too. It was a known car. Mine might have been an RPU again and not a roadster but the turtle deck popped up on Craigslist for $60.
     
  29. trailerpark
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    Best thread ever! Need to keep it on top.
     
  30. bobbytnm
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    great thread

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