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1936 Roadster hand formed & other projects

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by carbuilder, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your work.
     
  2. 53chevtrev
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    from Langley BC

    Amazing craftsmanship! I am blown away by your talent. Subscribed.
     
  3. oldman2
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    Thanks so much for explaining each process for different types of shapes, helps us "want to be" body men....Jim
     
  4. carbuilder
    Joined: Nov 21, 2006
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    Thanks it feels good to be back doing stuff, I am always open too visit's my normal work week is Tuesday thru Saturday just call ahead to make sure I am around not on a parts or material run 425 433 0294 Danny.
     
  5. koolkemp
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    Great to see you are feeling better and back at it !
     
  6. Amazing craftmanship.I love watching sheet metal work done by talents like you.
     
  7. carbuilder
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    I started on the 36 chev front fenders panels today lots of shape here. I made the tape template on the right fender but will be reversing it & showing the making of the left fender first.
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    Laid the pattern on 19 gage AKDQ steel the dotted lines are for the extra needed for the inner wheel lip plus there is an extra 3/8 of an inch for extra trim factor. then rough cut.
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    Triming using the Baileigh shear.
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    Trimmed & ready for the first of the hand pounding.
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    Some initial pounding in the shot bag.
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    First check for fit.
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    More pounding this time on the stump it needs some edge shrinking to pull the front down. By hitting in the hollow I creat a couple tuck/puckers (dare you to say that 10 times fast)
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    With the tuck/puckers crushed it has shrunk the top edge some.
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    The metal is under a lot of stress from the pounding so its time to wheel the panel for the first of many times. Wheeling to metal is like giving people prozak it relaxes things.
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    Not a bad fit for the first round.
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    The front edge needs more shrinking but it will come down.
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    Thats it for today more to come.
     
  8. oldman2
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    Wow, just amazing to watch how you make something from a flat piece....Jim
     
  9. Are there supposed to be pics?
     
  10. koolkemp
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    The HAMB is experiencing technical difficulties....
     
  11. carbuilder
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    James D I see pictures any one else not seeing them.
     
  12. Hop2it
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    I keep reading comments about pictures but I did not see one picture is there a problem with my IPad?
     
  13. CoolHand
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    I'm using FireFox on a desktop PC and I can't see any pictures either.

    It's not in every post, but I certainly can't see any that he was supposed to have just posted.

    All I see is a big block of text narrating pictures that aren't there.
     
  14. rustychevyman
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    This post is so educational. Please keep it coming!
     
  15. damnfingers
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    I'm seeing them...
     
  16. carbuilder
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    I spent some more time wheeling to get the panel fitting better, this is quite close so this section is finished for now.
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    Now on to the next piece here the template is sitting in place.
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    The new blank was trimmed using the Baileigh shear then de burred.
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    Here you can get an idea about how much shape will have to be put into the flat piece.
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    Where I will start the first of the bag work.
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    After the first short round of pounding & more tuck/puckers.
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    More continued.
     
  17. carbuilder
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    More bag work & the tuck/puckers are getting deeper that will mean when I crush them it will creat a decent shrink which will start creating the compound shape I am working at.
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    Some quick smoothing on the stump & the tuck/ puckers are crushed locking in the first stage of the shape.
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    After some more bag & stump work I tried the first check on the fender its starting to take shape.
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    The panel is heading in the wright direction.
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    I will try tomorrow to do some wheeling next as the panel is under a lot of stress & need to be relaxed so it will form easy again. That is the nice thing about the AKDQ steel it gets reformable after wheeling or planishing. there is still a lot of shape to be put into this piece.
     

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  19. oldman2
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    Very nice...Jim
     
  20. carbuilder
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    I managed to get some time in on Saturday, I started by putting in some tuck/puckers to shrink & pull the curved edge more.
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    After some stump crushing of the tuck/puckers I then needed to do some shrinking on the back edge to make it flow in better.
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    After some more rough smoothing on the stump I checked for rough fit its getting closer.
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    Another way to planish, smooth & releive the stress in a panel is using a pullmx type machine.
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    The top die is flat & the bottom has a almost flat section about 3/8 in in diameter with tapered edges. By running it so it just bairley kisses the metal it will planish quite well & the best thing is its quite.
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    After planishing in the pullmax then a little minor shot bag masaging its starting to get close. Hand formed compound parts are time consuming. There will be more hrs in these 2 fenders the most people would think as there is lots of changing shape with a large reverse curve thrown in.
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    That it for now more next week I will finish up the rough in on this part then on to the 41 Packard for a few days. Just trying to keep every one happy.
     
  21. oldman2
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    It's easy to see that you would have a ton of hours in making the fender. It's just beautiful workmanship, I enjoy watching you do this...Jim
     
  22. carbuilder
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    A little more tuck/pucker shrinking plus some wheeling and this section is done for now.
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    I am considering building a buck for the fenders to do the final fit & welding, also that way if some one has the $$ and wants a new set of fenders I can build a pair.

    Now on to the 41 packard door for a few days.
     
  23. oldman2
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    Great job....Jim
     
  24. carbuilder
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    I realize a 41 packard convertible Restoration is not real hamb friendly but I would think the metal shaping would be in diferent areas of other projects. So here is the 41 Convertible I will be doing all the sheet metal work on & using for patterns to make the coupe into a convertible.
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    The owner needs the chassis to do so I will be preping the body & mounting it to a roll cart.
     
  25. oldman2
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    Sounds like a great project, projects. Same customer for both cars??....Jim
     
  26. carbuilder
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    yep 1 customer 2 cars.
     
  27. carbuilder
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    I made some body supports then finished un doing a few things the owner missed to remove the body.
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    This is a better shot of the body support system. It is chained to the lift bar for the front of the car with 1 cherry picker in the front, the blue straps are just to keep the bar in the middle.
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    The rear support is screwed into the factory fender bolt in spots, Packard used a lag type screw to bolt the fender on and another cherry picker in the rear.
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    I made up some angle iron adpters to screw into the stock screw locations, the metal was pretty solid there.
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    The rear support is tided into the front support which firmed it wright up for lifting.
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    The lag screws in the factory screw retainers, these will get covered with some hose so I dont snag my self.
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    Now off to the steel yard, I need more material for the mounts for the roll cart the body will go on.
     
  28. oldman2
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  29. That ought to keep you busy for a while....
     
  30. carbuilder
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    41 packard coupe to be convertied to convertible. The lower front cowls are a mess so I am starting with the right side.
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    Its nice having a decent convertible pattern car rusty but all there un wrecked to make templates off of.
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    Tape transfere template will be used for both sides.
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    Information transfered to 19 gage AKDQ steel.
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    Started rough blocking the panel.
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    Checking with a profile gage to see how much more shape has to be rough pounded.
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    I was going to try & make it in 1 piece just a little more complicated then it looks. It will be made in 3 pieces. here it is trimmed & planished.
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    Lower edge rough shaped needs to be trimmed to fit still.
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