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1934 Ford rearend swap

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by thirt4, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. thirt4
    Joined: Jul 4, 2012
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    from Arizona

    Today I spoke to a guy on the phone who is going to buy one of my spare gas tanks.
    During the conversation, he asked what rear end was under my '34 coupe. I told him it was at this time, the stock banjo rear end, unknown gear ratio but I have been told to exchange it for an 8 inch or a 9 inch Ford.

    He said on his '34 he has an Olds rear end that is too wide and does not know what to replace it with.

    Does anyone have a "perfect" non banjo or Olds rear end idea that we should go with for our cars? I sort of like the 8 or 9 inch idea but am not sure if that is the way to go and if it is, I do not know what gear ratio I should run.
    For my car, I will be using (I believe) the stock 3 speed transmission unless I find the "perfect" T5 5 or 6 speed to go behind my Merc that I have decided to attempt to put in it.
    Also, I do not want to change out the rear leaf spring combo from the stock setup. I like that mono leaf going across the back. (If it is possible to keep that setup)
    I do not know what his engine and transmission combo is yet but should tomorrow.
     
  2. fordcpe
    Joined: Nov 4, 2005
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    My 34 has stock buggy spring front and rear with four bars with 8 inch rear 3.25 gear. You would have to get a open drive truck trans to use with 8 or 9 inch ford.My 8 inch hits the stock floor on big bumps once and awhile so the bigger 9 will hit the floor for sure.You don't need a 9 inch for a flathead anyway. The stock rear buggy spring makes it hard to run the exaust over the rear.Darrell
     
  3. Bigcheese327
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    Width wise I believe the Maverick 8" is ideal; or the '57 Ford or Early Bronco 9" if you need the strength.
     
  4. fordcpe
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    Mine is a 65 66 mustang 8 rear.
     

  5. I used a Bronco 9" on my 34. It fits perfect. Came with a 3.50 gear ratio. Speedway brackets. Modified the crossmember to take a straight ( as opposed to the curved 34' ) 40' rear spring. Works fine.
     
  6. fordcpe
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    Ford
    OutsideWidth Year Model
    56.50 1969-1977 Maverick 8"
    57.00 1974-1978 Mustang II 8"
    57.25 1957-1959 Ford, Ranchero, Station Wagon
    57.25 1965-1966 Mustang
    58.00 1966-1977 Bronco
    58.00 1964-1965 Falcon
    58.00 1977-1981 Granada/Versailles
    58.50 1977-1981 Versailles
    59.25 1967-1970 Mustang, Fairlane, Comet, Cougar
    60.00 1967 Cougar
    60.00 1958-1960 Edsel
    61.00 1964-1971 Ford Full Size
    61.00 1949-1951 Mercury
    61.25 1957-1972 Ford F-100 Pickup
    61.25 1960-1964 Ford Full Size
    61.25 1971-1973 Mustang
    61.25 1967-1973 Torino, Ranchero, Fairlane
    63.00 1970-1979 Ranchero & Torino
    63.00 1972-1979 Ford Full Size & Intermediate
    63.50 1967 Fairlane (Coil Springs)
    65.25 1973-1986 Ford F-150 Pickup
    65.25 1978-1986 Bronco
    65.25 1973-1986 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
    68.00 1972 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
    69.25 1977-1986 Ford E-150 Van
     
  7. ss34coupe
    Joined: May 13, 2007
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    I have a 57 Ford nine inch in my chopped coupe, with the stock spring. It has 3.5 gears, and 7 inch rims. Fits and works perfectly.
     
  8. smittythejunkman
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    I have a 57 ford 9 inch rear end in my 34 coupe, the width is right
     
  9. ss34coupe
    Joined: May 13, 2007
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    Here is the 57 Ford nine inch rearend in my 34 Ford coupe. Used the stock rear spring with one leaf taken out and flattened a bit. This setup has worked well for many years, and the ride is surprisingly good for a buggy spring suspension.
     

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  10. Harms Way
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    I am a big fan of 9" Bronco Rear axles and have used them under a number of chassis,.. I also like the big bearings and 5-1/2" bolt circle. as well as the fact that a number of them come with 3:50 Trac-Lock Differentials. But with that said, A friend of mine used a Flathead hooked to a T-5 with a S-10 Rear axle on 35 wishbones,.... and loves it.

    I started to build this 33 Coupe as a beater,... then petered out. It has a 67' 9" Bronco rear in it .
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    And this one had a 57' Rear axle under it.
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  11. ss34coupe
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    Anybody put the early Bronco axles in a 57-9 Ford rearend housing in order to get the 5 on 5 and a half bolt pattern? According to Fordcpe's chart above, the Bronco axles are three quarters of an inch longer than the 57-9 Ford axle - could that much be shaved off to make them fit? I have a pair of early Bronco axles and would put them in the 57 rear in my 34 coupe.
     
  12. Baron
    Joined: Aug 13, 2004
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    3/8 of an inch off each axle should be no problem as long as the pinion gear offset is the same on both housings(if I remember correctly, the Bronco housing is centered with the pinion offset).
    Just found this thread.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583944
     
  13. ss34coupe
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    Thanks for the info, Baron. I'll put the Bronco axles in a 57 housing and see how things fit to determine if this swap is feasible.
     
  14. Baron
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    Bronco axles 27 1/4" left ,29 11/16 rt ,from face of flange to end of axle.
     
  15. olscrounger
    Joined: Feb 23, 2008
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    thx for the rearend width chart--just found an 8" that is 57.25--will work well in next 40.
     
  16. Shaggy
    Joined: Mar 6, 2003
    Posts: 5,207

    Shaggy
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    from Sultan, WA

    Olds and banjo should be the ONLY choices!!!
     

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