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Help ID these backing plates...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by thekid54, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. thekid54
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    What are these? They're hydraulic and mounted to a '37-'40 Ford rearend.

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  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    Post more pics...pull a drum if possible. I kinda think those may be '37-8 cable brakes with Ansen conversion.
     
  3. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    Those are early Ford mechanical backing plates that hev been converted to hydraulic.
     
  4. thekid54
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    Don't have access to it right now and these are the only pics I have, but I'll see if I can get more.
     

  5. thekid54
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    Hmm...interesting. Are these worth keeping, or would I be better off going with '40 juice brakes.
     
  6. pasadenahotrod
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    I'd use stock 39-40 or 42-48 backing plates before using any old conversion.
    Sell them to someone who "needs" them and offset some of the cost of the correct parts.
     
  7. LOWCAB
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    Those are model A backing plates.
     
  8. Bruce Lancaster
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    If A they would be 11", and I don't know where the iron ribbed drums would come from... these don't look A. They have Bendix looking hold downs showing and what looks like a rotated cable outlet bulge showing...but those pictures are very limiting.
     
  9. thekid54
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    Drum diameter is 12".
     
  10. I was thinking the ribbing looked more like '36 brakes; but the axle bell is later. The pictures I have seen of the Ansen conversions showed Huck wheel cyls with a hole drilled next to them to access the adjustment notches, these were '32-'34 plates, maybe later
    plates were done differently.
     

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  11. Bruce Lancaster
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    The chevy Huck cylinders were used because they could both apply the brakes and adjust the shoes, important since that had to happen in the same place on the '28-34 conversions. Others like the one pictured above have the stock adjusters at the bottom and cylinder at top, so did not need Huck type cylinder...but I have NO idea what they used.
    The ansen conversions were available as full kits for all the various models '28-34 and were heavily advertised everywhere for a long time. They must have been fairly common, yet I have never seen more than scattered fragments.
     
  12. Yea, it would be interesting to see whats inside the drums the OP posted; but most of time
    the thread just kind of ends with no further info. Always neat to see what was done in the past.
     
  13. thekid54
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    I'll crack them open and keep you posted...
     

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