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What defines a Speedster ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by millersgarage, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. millersgarage
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    I ask because I still have the flathead I pulled out of my '47 (it's a '51). And if everything else I put into the car is old parts, I feel the mid 70's 4cyl I was planning to use would be out of place.
     
  2. Bigcheese327
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    I think the 2.3L you were initially contemplating could be effectively dressed as a tribute to the Model T OHV conversions available in that era. Or, a ‘51 V8 bears a passing resemblance to the ‘32-‘36 pump-in-head V8, so it could still be viable for the build I described.

    Or go one step further and build a pure ‘50s style car with 16-inch steelies, a flathead, and the whole works, just use the speedster body. Again, I know of no precedent, but obviously ‘20s-style bodies existed in the ‘50s, so why not?

    Maybe you should stop by the Photoshop thread with a picture of the speedster style you’re contemplating and have them add the ‘50s elements to check it out ahead of time.

    -Dave
     
  3. morac41
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    Hi ..I'm going with ..flynbrian48..I like 3 springer's .. last one I built would be in the trackster option...built it on the mid 30's dirt track look ...Used a T cowl and doors all the rest fabricated.....2 half eliptics in the front buggy style ..transverse rear on a T chassis... a great car to drive....Doug
     

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  4. bedfordboys
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    from bedford va

    Long, skinny, open and fun. Here is a pic of my bob-tail. Might give you a idea or two.
     

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  5. Rocky Famoso
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    Being a Studee Nut, when you say Speedster, this is what comes to my mind...

    The Studebaker Speedster was produced during the 1955 model year, list price started at $3,253, or about $800 more than a base 1955 President State hardtop.It was loaded with standard equipment including: choice of Studebaker Automatic Drive or overdrive transmissions, power steering and brakes, dual exhaust, four-barrel carburetor, "Shoemaker-stitched" diamond-quilted genuine top-grain leather seating, carpeting front and rear, a map pocket, an eight-tube push-button radio, a Stewart-Warner 160 mph (260 km/h) speedometer and 8,000 rpm tachometer in an engine-turned facing, turn signals, electric clock, tinted glass, cigarette lighter, oil filter and oil bath air cleaner, dual backup lamps, triple horns, two-speed electric wipers, tubeless whitewall tires, simulated wire wheel covers and fog-light bumperettes.
    There was also Speedster-specific trim including a hood-length hood ornament, stainless roof band, Speedster nameplates and checkered emblems as well as chrome-plated ashtrays, rear-view mirror, moldings and tailpipe extensions.

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  6. millersgarage
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    OK, so here is my 1/25th scale representation of what I am building in my head.

    40 Ford hoods on the rear, 28 cowl to grille. spring behind front, spring behind rear.

    Of couse windshield, and lights, etc, will make a big difference in the overall look, but theis is the basic idea. and the axles will not be chrome on the real thing.

    I am not sure I like the rear frame rails.

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    so, is it a speedster, a special, a waste of time?......
     
  7. Slick Willy
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    ^^That doesnt look like a porsche!?
     
  8. Slick Willy
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    Hide the rear rails or flush them to the body.
     
  9. millersgarage
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    Ya, I'm not digging the rails. My thinking was to cut the rear rails off the '47 frame, and use them on the Model A frame.

    now I am thinking no, keep them at least under the body.
     
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  10. el caballo loco
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    from colorado

    Lookup model T forums on the interweb, those guys are MILITANT about era correct parts and speedsters n whatnot.... They'll have all the info you can imagine just don't tell em you're a hotrodder. They HATE us.... Like i care. :)
     
  11. Mr48chev
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    I think a V8 would put it over in the hot rod or modifieds classification rather than what is viewed as a traditional speedster. The guys who do the speedster group tours in the PNW and further away all seem to run 4 bangers with Ford or 28 Chevrolet for some reason being the popular ones. In the area I live in several of the hardcore Model A club members have Model A speedsters built out of the left overs from their restorations and they have a lot of fun with them.

    If I ever find a frame that will work that I can afford the parts and pieces I have gathered over the past 30 years will be more of a modified as it will run a flathead six rather than a four. It is intended to look like an "old racecar" when people see it as I want them to think late 20's early 30's Indy or Grand Prix car.
     

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