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Old school delco distributors v8

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by GMC BUBBA, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. GMC BUBBA
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    In all my many years of servicing distributors and ignition systems i have never seen a better distributor than the older cast iron Delco units.
    They almost never eat a bushing , the advance is picture perfect and the overall design is just great!
    Using a NAPA/Echlin HD set of contacts with a polished distributor cam the unit will spin well upward of 7000-8000 rpm with contact points. The factory vacuum advance adds approx 2-3 mpg and the overall performance of the unit is just about perfect including the old school look of the Delco in the chevrolet engine.
    Cleaning out the storage shed i found a basket of these old cores and had my pert time guy start cleaning up a few today.
    Need a distributor for that project Chevrolet engine , this is the deal for you!
    Pictures show tear down and clean up. Special pricing in the hamb classifieds.

    Sorry about the two injector cleaning pictures ??????
     

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  2. hotrodjeep
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    from Tama, Iowa

    Would your opinion of the Delco Distributer overflow to other manufactures that used it?
    IE AMC, Kaiser, V8's.
    Are the points better than the HeI/Pertronix conversions?

    Jeff
     
  3. A bad set of points can always get you home. HEI's hardly ever quit, but when they do, they strand you on the side of the road.

    Never had any Pertronix but I'm reasonably sure there is no McGuyver fix that will get you home either.
     
  4. GMC BUBBA
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    Yes all the Delcos were great units, quality metal etc.

    The point systems work very well and usually is all a project needs ,they run the rpm and are easy to fix .
    Ignition spark is based on need and you almost never have the need for some of these high energy systems. Higher energy costs higher current flow and higher current current adds heat to the system.
    High energy came with the emission laws and lean running engines.

    I usually do a pertronix and a HEI almost every day and they are good IF they suit the application.
     

  5. tommy
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    I bought a 57 Olds once and it wasn't running the best so I checked the points. The contact on the movable arm welded itself to the fixed contact. The arm would make contact with the back of the welded contacts. I put the cap back on and drove to the parts store for a new set. A GM "window points" dist. has always been my favorite. It's so much nicer to set the points with a dwell meter and an Allen wrench rather than a screwdriver and a feeler gauge.:D
     
  6. silversink
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    Until you screw up and it bites the hell out of you when your not expecting it.
     

  7. I actually have a special allen wrench for that application. Actually its just a regular allen wrench the correct size with electrical tape wrapped around it. I made it up in highschool when I was making extra cash tunning for the GM guys and got tired of the tingle.

    I have two window dizzys in the garage one on a shelf and one in a box. One with points and one with a petronix unit in it. I keep them for emergencies. Ya just never know when you are going to have to go to Pig Snarf to rescue someone who bought the newest and bestest trick dizzy, only to find out that they really don't use good parts in China.
     
  8. silent rick
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    what about the older delco units from 55-57? the ones with 110891 stamped in them?
     
  9. tommy
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    I have a GM "points tool" from back then A plastic screwdriver handle with a flexible shaft and the correct allen wrench on the end. I got tired of always picking the wrong size allen.:D
     

  10. Tommy
    You are just too high tech for me. :D

    I used to carry my allen wrench in the ask tray of my old ford just in case I needed gas money. The rich kids with the tri-five chevys were always good for two or three bucks even if I tweaked one by ear. That was a lot of gas @ 24-27 cents a gallon.
     
  11. budd
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    i have the same screwdriver, bought it when i was 15 working on my 69 biscane with a 327, bought a dwel meter at the same time, i'm done with HEI, to big and ugly anyway.


     
  12. Little Wing
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    have a pile of about 80 Delco Dist. from day one up to the 50's,,lol,,,
     
  13. Yea do ya got a junk dizzy for my big olds? One that I can use for setup and then make an oil pump primer out of it when I'm done? :D:D
     
  14. tommy
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    You can bet that it is not a Snap-on. It's a cheap auto parts peg board special. I'm too old now to lay my fat ass across the fender, prop my elbow up on the valve cover and try to get the damn thing started.:D
     
  15. Fat isn't something that I am aquainted with but laying across the fender is killing me any more. I am going to have to switch from mid-50s cars to old hoodless fenderless stuff I'm afraid. :eek:
     
  16. Silent rick, You mean this one, dual point, no vacuum advance.
     

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  17. silent rick
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    yep, that's the one
     
  18. Little Wing
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    I know there are Caddy ones and such,,if you know the Number that would be on it ,,I'll look,,there all covered in about a inch of dust from sitting in the rafters,,lol
     
  19. I'll contact Bubba and see if he can enlighten me on that number issue.

    Look for PM in the next day or so.
     
  20. HEI's have one of the highest failure rates of any system out there. The modules are so famous for it that most parts stores carry a deep stock of them. Back in the 70's when I worked in a parts store, nary a day went by when we didn't sell at least one module. And it's worse now days with all the off shore junk being sold.
    As for the PerTronix, although they have a very low failure rate if properly installed and wired (Good ground, solid voltage) if they do fail the McGyver fix is that you can throw the old points and condenser back in with in minutes and you are right back on the road.
     
  21. Dooley
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    thats the vette dual point made for late 50's erly 60's 283 with 2 4 bbl carbs

    I had one curved for my current motor but ended up selling it and using a gm single point with vac advance.

    You see those on ebay alot not as valuable as the vette tach drive ones, but probably similar to a mallory dual point w/o vac (except for the adjustable mechanical advance that the mallory has)
     
  22. 92GTA
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    I love my 1110879, the mechanical advance is beautiful.
     
  23. GMC BUBBA
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    I do have some of the 55-57 straight up cap units in another box somewhere , but not dual point Vette..........
     
  24. What does DELCO stand for? Anyone!, Anyone!
     
  25. tommy
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    Dayton Electric Company

    They made the first electric starter motor for Cadillac in the 20s
     
  26. frankbmg
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    How about Dayton Engineering Lab Co.
    Frank
     
  27. cabriolethiboy
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    I retired from Delco Remy after it changed to Delphi. It was an amazing place in its day. It had 20 plants in Anderson, In., more in other places. i worked in a skilled trades only shop with 500 skilled trades employees. None of it exists anymore.
    http://delcoremyhistory.com/index.htm
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    Plant 18 during better times in 1986. 1977 was the year the pictured logo was introduced. Gene Phillips photo courtesy of Ken Burke.

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    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Plant Number</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Location</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>Dates - DR Production</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>Plant History and Products</TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>12th and Meridian</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1896-1897</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    14 by 20 foot shack that was used by Perry and Frank Remy for experimentation. This was on the south west corner of the intersection.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>14 & 1/2 Street and Meridian Street</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1897-1901</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Manufacture of automotive dynamos and magnetos.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>South-East corner of 1st and Sherman or Second and Hendricks</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1901-1909</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Manufacture of automotive dynamos and magnetos. This location has also been identified as First and Sherman or 2nd and Hendricks. First and Sherman is on the property owned by the former Container Corporation property. Production overlapped with the new Columbus Avenue facility until June of 1909 when the property was sold to Sefton Mfg (later Container Corp). See our History page for more documentation on this subject.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>1</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle> 1906-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Purchased on May 23, 1906 and construction began with the individual one story buildings that were north and south of the center section of what eventually became Plant One. Plant One east-west section was built in 1919 with the with the five story section parallel to Columbus Ave. being completed in 1929. Begins the manufacture of Klaxon Horns in 1924 with final assembly on the third floor. By 1948 all manufacturing had left Plant 1 for the other plants and it then was utilized for all engineering and administration until product engineering moved to Plant 18 in 1962. After the reorganization into SBUs in 1987 product engineering and administration for the Heavy Duty SBU, Generators and Motors moved into the facility. Some time before 1994 the General Managers office was moved to Plant 18. After 1994 remaining AC Delco Systems activities were moved to Plant 18 and Remy International moved to other locations until it was vacated in 1998. It was torn down in 2001.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The First Plant 3</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Muncie, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1923-1926</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This is in Muncie on SR 32 (Kilgore Ave) at the intersection of South Perkins Street and is currently owned by the Muncie School System. The plant was built in the 1923 time frame for the development and production of electrical lights for Harvester Tractors. When the ARVAC building sent motor production to Plant 6 it appears the operation and Plant Number 3 shifted to that location and this was closed. While there is nothing on this in any of the DR written histories, Everett Vinson, father of Ted, worked at this plant so we have verification it was in use by Remy.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle> The First Plant 2 and Second Plant 3 American Rotary Valve (Arvac) Remy Electric Company
    </TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1923-1928</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Purchased to produce cranking motors according to the Delco-Remy History files, which also state the Guide Lamp Company of Cleveland, OH was purchased in 1928 and the equipment then set up in this building, with motors being assembled on the main floor of the building while the armatures were wound in the mezzanine. The cranking motor product line moved to Plant 6 in 1926. The DR history also has the tail and side lamps produced in Muncie being moved to this location in 1928. All of this evolved into the Guide Lamp Division of GMC in 1929. The Guide Lamp history has the business being purchased in 1923 rather than 1928 which means both cranking motors and headlamps being produced in this facility at the same time. This building was located at the Anderson Guide facility on the west side of Anderson at 25th Street and the railroad tracks and survived until GM razed the entire complex in 2008-2009.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The Third Plant 3</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Indianapolis, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1929</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was a foundry according to the 1929 DR phone book and is believed to be the Bu-Nite Piston Company plant purchased in 1929.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The First Plant 5.</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1928</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    A box plant located at 25th and Walnut Streets on the location of the second Plant Five, the Foundry. Apparently this plant burned between May of 1927 and 1928 when the Foundry was built.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The First Plant 7</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Dayton, OH</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1926-1929</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Located at 329 East 1st Street in Dayton, OH. Manufacture by Delco-Remy of shock absorbers in the previous Dayton Engineering Laboratories Company plant. Previously this plant had been making electrical parts in competition with Remy. This became Delco Products Division of GMC in 1929.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The Second Plant 2</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1927-1985</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Opened July 2, 1927. Manufactured distributors and coils including phenolic thermoset molding until April 1949 when the division wide kitchen and Plants 4-6-8 cafeteria were installed when the lunch period went from one hour to 30 minutes. Distributors, coils and phenolic molding moved to Plant 10. During WWII the plant manufactured military coils and distributors along with molding parts and building breakers for the Plant 10 built aircraft magnetos.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The Second Plant 7</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1928 - ?</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>This Plant replaced the first Plant 5 that burned. Unknown location as of this time.</TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle> </TD><TD width=99 align=middle>London, UK</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1940</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was a shared plant with the Hyatt Bearing Division and was located along the Thames River in London. Many DR employees were killed and injured when the plant was destroyed during the Battle of Britain by German bombers. The operation then moved to the AC plant at Dunstable northwest of London.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The Fourth Plant 3</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1937-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built for the production of cranking motors Plant 3 maintained this product line for its entire life. During WWII it produced starters for military trucks. During the Korean War the plant produced 5,000 motors to replace starters on WWII trucks enroute to Korea. It had additions in 1951, 1959 and the mid 60's at which time it reached a capacity of 21,500 motors per day. Remy International took over the facility in 1994 and remained until 1998. GM tore down the plant in 2003.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>4</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1926-1985</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Opened January 28, 1926. Produced passenger car generators which came to it from Plant One along with heavy duty generators from 1935-1938. During WWII manufactured servo bodies for aircraft automatic pilots. After WWII it returned to making generators. After 1962 when the Delcotron became the standard passenger car generator Plant 4 continued with the 6 and 12 volt DC generator product line for service and for car, truck and tractor OEMs still using that technology.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>The Second Plant 5</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1928-1987</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Opened November 29, 1928. This was the grey iron casting foundry that produced castings for the different product lines in Anderson including motor housings, generator end frame, iron bowl distributor bases and heavy duty generator and starter housings. From 1980-1986 Plant 5 ran 35,000 HEI distributor gear blanks on second shift after outside suppliers could not hold the proper chemistry needed to keep the gears from failing in engine applications. Actually the gear had to be not too hard or not to soft as the proper hardness of the gear would allow it to fail before the more expensive camshaft. When Direct Ignition was introduced the gear was no longer needed and plant volume dropped. The last pore of metal was made on October 4, 1987. The plant was then torn down.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>6</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1926-1985</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Opened November 6 and a circus in the building celebrated the event. Was built for the production of cranking motors which came to it from the Arvac building. Motor production went to Plant 3 in 1938 when regulators and relays became the product line which would stay in the plant until the product line was sold and the plant was torn down. Also in 1938 heavy-duty generators came to the plant before going to Plant 8During WWII various types of voltage regulators were built along with automatic aircraft engine controllers.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle> The Third Plant 7</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1940-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Originally named the Aluminum Foundry, construction started on 9-1-1940 and was completed in just 71 days on December 10, 1940. Floodlights were set up so work by the 300 contractors employed in the construction could continue after dark. Originally when announced by DR this was to be numbered Plant 10. On December 28, 1940 the first castings were produced. Built to produce aluminum castings for the Allison V-1710 V-12 cylinder liquid cooled aircraft engine, DR provided over half of the Al castings for Allison which would have gone into over 35,000 engines. The Allison V-1710 powered the P-38, P-39, P-40, P-51A, P-63 and A-36 aircraft during WWII. The equipment and tooling were turned over to Allison after the war, enabling DR to move its own product lines into the plant.
    In 1946 the horn product line was moved to the plant along with zinc die cast which was on the west end of the plant. It was removed when the plant began producing Al die cast parts for various products including switches, distributors and generators after the north addition was put on the plant in 1953-54. Thermoset Molding (Bakelite) was added along with the production of various electrical automotive switches. These included switches for the column lock ignition, turn signal, neutral start back up, headlight, dimmer, and windshield wiper. Four lines of horns were also in the plant in the 1970's.

    The last product line in the plant was Heavy Duty Starters that came to the plant after Plant 8 closed. Remy International occupied it after 1994 until it moved operations out.
    It was torn down in 1995.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>8</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1928-1985</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Opened July 12, 1928. An addition was completed in 1936 on the west end where the DR softball field had been and was called the annex. The first products to be made in the plant were the Blossom Transmission and Ignition Lock and wiring harnesses. The lock business only lasted until the early 1930's but was replaced by control rods and the Packard Cable Company business in 1933. Prior to WWII brushes for generators and motors came into Plant 8, along with the machining of engine parts for Allison in Indianapolis which included pistons, supercharger impellers and aircraft magnetos. During WWII Plant 8 produced aircraft generators. After the war it produced 12, 24 and 32 volt heavy duty starters and generators.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>9</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Muncie, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1928-1978</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was a vacant auto assembly plant that had produced the Sheridan Automobile in 1921-1922 for WB Durant and the Interstate Automobile before that. This was GM Project 251 and had a project allocation of $250,000. Production began in March.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Battery Plant</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Bloomfield, NJ</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1936-1945 </TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Bloomfield was the east coast Battery Plant for DR and was producing 4,000 batteries a day when on January 21, 1942 it became part of the Eastern Aircraft Division of GM which produced under license from Grumman 1060 FM-1and 4,777 FM-2 Wildcat fighters and 7,546 TBM Avengers for the US Navy. Bloomfield produced all of the electrical and hydraulic assemblies and ammunition boxes for the aircraft. After WWII it war replaced by the New Brunswick Battery Plant due it was viewed as not considered economically practical to convert back to battery production and it was replaced by the New Brunswick, NY Battery Plant. During its life as a DR Battery Plant Bloomfield produced 8 million batteries.
    In 1950 General Plastics purchased the facility for the process of Fluoropolymer coating. General Plastics and the building still exist today.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Crosley Radio</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Kokomo, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1936-1936</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    DR manages the former Crosley Radio operation in Kokomo until it becomes as separate division of GM, Delco Radio.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>10</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1941-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built to produce Aircraft magnetos and machine parts for aircraft engines during WWII. Magnetos would be produced in the plant until 1952. Iron bowl distributor production along with the molding department was moved to the plant from plant 2 in 1949 when the cafeteria was installed in plant 2. In 1950 an addition was added on the east end for more capacity to manufacture of the phenolic resin thermoset distributor caps and rotors. Flat top distributor with an Al base production began in 1954.
    Another addition was added in 1964 on the front or north side of the plant. This included both male and female locker rooms on either side of the ramp as one walked in from the front towards the office long with gear hobbing and the manufacture of cams and distributor contacts. After distributor production shifted to the HEI in Plant 20 it continued making the distributor gears and shafts until it closed. After the old distributor business was sold horns and switches from Plant 7 moved in. Switches built were column dimmer, headlight, column lock ignition and one new headlight switch.
    ACG operated the plant for several years after 1994.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Aluminum Foundry</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Bedford, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1942-1945</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant was acquired by DR to increase capacity for the production of Al castings for Allison and was turned over to Allison after the war. This is not the same plant that is currently part of GM Powertrain Division, as that plant produced grey iron and steel castings during WWll.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Antioch Foundry</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Yellow Springs, OH</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1942-1946</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant produced aircraft aluminum castings and for casting development work. The Antioch Foundry was purchased due to its history of being an innovator in Al casting processes and was utilized for research and development. Morris and Xarifa Bean were actually the reasons for the innovations at the plant and in 1946 they purchased the plant back from Allison after DR turned it over to that division in 1945. It became the Morris Bean Company, which is still in business today making precision castings.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>US Navy Owned Plant</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Kings Mills, OH</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1944-1945</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant was purchased to produce heavy duty cranking motors for landing craft in WWII. The Plant was turned back over to the Navy after the war.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>11</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1952-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built in 1952 to manufacture jet engine compressor and turbine rotors for Allison jet engines, which ceased at the end of 1954. Concurrently in 1953 the plant began manufacturing Hydramatic automatic transmission parts to keep production going on Hydramatic due to the fact that the GM Livonia Transmission Plant had burned down. Starting in 1953 the plant began the manufacture of distributor and other vacuums, a product line it would keep until the late 1990s. Also during that time frame it manufactured magnetic switches, solenoids, outboard motor cranking motors and stators for flywheel generators.
    In the late 1950's defense products entered the product portfolio of the plant which included transformer rectifiers for aircraft, linear solenoids for missiles, and silver-sink batteries for Minuteman Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, which stayed in the plant until 1979.
    The Delcotron began production in 1962 and in 1977 Plant 11 was producing 31,000 per day on four production lines. The plant during this time period was producing 130,000 vacuums per day. Plant 11 housed the thermoplastic molding departments for all of the Anderson plants except for horn parts which were molded in Plant 7 and later Plant 10. Also manufactured in the plant was the heated windshield power module and the transmission mounted NSBU switch.
    In 1977 there were 2,100 hourly and 130 salary employees in Plant 11 resulting in an annual payroll of over $30 million. The plant covered 534,135 square feet or 12.26 acres.
    After 1994 the ACG and later Delphi continued to build generators in the plant until 2005. GM tore it down in 2006.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>12</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>New Brunswick, NJ</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1946-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built to support the east coast GM assembly plants at Wilmington, DE, Tarrytown, NY and Baltimore, MD, and the east coast aftermarket, New Brunswick started producing Freedom Batteries in 1973 for Chevrolet Vegas. The plant was purchased by JCI in 2006 which it ran until it closed the facility on March 13, 2007. It currently still stands but is vacant.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>13</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anaheim, CA </TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1954-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built to supply batteries to the three GM assembly plants in California (Freemont, Southgate and Van Nuys) along with aftermarket production.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>14</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Olathe, KS </TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1956-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Olathe was the first plant to produce the maintenance free battery in 1970-1971 employing what was described as wire wound grid technology. The product was sold exclusively to JC Penny. Located just southwest of Kansas, City, KS, this plant could supply OEM batteries to the GM Fairfax, KS plant and later on the assembly plants in Oklahoma City, OK and Wentzville, MO. The last production battery was a heavy duty unit for Caterpillar in February of 2005. It was razed in 2009.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>15</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1959-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant was built and utilized for the packaging and shipment of service parts. In 1994 it closed and was sold and that function moved to Plant 19 after the stacker system was removed. Currently S&S Steel, a slitting operation, owns the building.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>16</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1959-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built as a maintenance, tooling and central stores operation. Still exists and is owned by the city of Anderson. Currently vacant and unused. After 1994 it continued as as ACG/Delphi tooling facility and
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>17</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1963-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    The plant was built for expanded production of heavy duty motors and alternators. In 1966 the plant was essentially doubled in size with an addition on the west end. At the same time the Model Shop which at been in Plant 24 Midwest was moved in. With the new CS line of Delcotrons that was introduced in 1986 the area right that was right behind the office was reconfigured for the production of wafer diodes for the bridges. This included the stamping of copper strips and inline molding insulators in the process. A "White Room" clean room was set up for the contaminant free production of the diode wafers and their solder pads. This area remained in the plant after 1994 even though the rest of the plant was taken over by Remy International. The diode operation remained until replaced by the button diodes. Plant 17 was abandoned by Remy International around 2000 and then torn down by GM.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>18</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1962-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Plant 18 was built to house the Product Engineering Function for the Division, consisting of a three story office building and a one story product test lab complex. The three story office building design was also used by GM at Packard in Warren, OH which was a two story engineering/administrative facility and at Delco Radio as a three story and numbered Plant 10, which is now due for demolition.
    After the change to Strategic or Small Business Units (SBU) in 1987 it became location for the Battery and Control/Ignition SBUs while at the same time product engineering for Delcotrons, Motors and Heavy-Duty went to Plant One. In the early 90's the divisional headquarters were to moved to Plant 18 from Plant One. Later as part of ACG/Dephi the Generator SBU moved in as Plant One closed and at about the same time the Battery SBU moved to Indianapolis.
    After closing in 2003 ownership was turned over to the city of Anderson in 2006 along with the rest of the Anderson Complex. Plant 18 and 22 acres was sold to Anderson based Hy-Tech Machining for $425,000 by the city of Anderson in 2008. It published intention was to only utilize the former lab area for it machining operation and tear down the three story. In 2008 this would have been a good strategy due to the elevated price of steel and other raw materials it could have made money in the demolition. However, with the bubble bursting on raw material prices in the economic downturn of late 2008 and 2009 razing the three story may be cost prohibitive for Hy-Tech. In early 2010 Families Forever started operating in the three story through the front lobby.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>19</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1972-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This structure was built as an OEM shipping shipping plant for all of the Anderson Plants. It featured a an automated stacker system in the east section of the plant for storage of finished product. When Just in Time inventory and shipping became the popular the stacker was no longer needed as product was shipped of the producing plant's dock and the stacker was removed. When Plant 15 was vacated the service parts moved into Plant 19. Later it was sold to AMACOR, a company recycles magnesium. West section of the plant burned in an arson fire several years ago and was not rebuilt.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>20</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1972-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built in 1972 with first production of the High Energy Ignition in mid 1973 for model year The plant closed in 2007 but still stands and is currently for sale. The City of Anderson owns the building and property. In 2010 the Plant was sold to S&S Steel.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Ward Stilson</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was also known as the morgue and was used to store obsolete equipment. Previously it had produced regalia for fraternal lodges before being purchased by DR.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>Equipment Morgue</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Alexandria, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1980s-1993</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was also used for storage of obsolete equipment until it could be sold. It was located on West Washington at what used to be Front Discharge Mixer.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>21</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1962-1979</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant located in the basement of Plant 11 manufactured silver-zinc batteries for the US Air Force Minuteman Missile program. Each missile had two batteries. One initiated the firing sequence and the other powered the navigation system. The batteries only had to power the unit for less than two minutes because after that time the missile's ballistic course was set for the 15 minute trip to the target.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>22</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Fitzgerald, GA </TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1973-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    First DR battery plant to exclusively produce the maintenance free battery which were built for customers like GM, Wal-Mart, K-mart, Sears, Honda and Western Auto. It supported the two GM assembly plants at Lakewood and Doraville in the Atlanta, GA area and also provided aftermarket batteries for the region. The plant continued as a supplier to Johnson Controls until late 2007.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>24</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1943-1977</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    The former Midwest Plant was purchased to package and ship service parts for civilian transportation during WWII. It continued with that operation after the war and also added the Model Shop, which then went to Plant 17 in 1966. According to a Heavy Duty Remanufactured Starting Motor and Alternator Brochure dated 1981 Plant 24 in Anderson was remodeled in 1980 for Heavy Duty Alternators and contained 60,000 square feet. I am not certain that this remodeled Plant 24 was still in Midwest or that Plant 24 was moved into another plant in Anderson.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>25</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Meridian, MS</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1976-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This plant was purchased for the production of 5MT starting motors and later built permanent magnet gear reduction cranking motors. It also had a powdered metal forge which when it left DR in 1994 was processing over 17 million pounds of powdered metal. Remy International operated the facility until February 27, 1998 and moved the production back to its new South Anderson Plant.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>26</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Muncie, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1977-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This replaced Plant 9 in Muncie and manufactured Freedom Batteries while in existence.. It was closed and torn down in 1998.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>27</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Shreveport, LA</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1976-1978</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was the production site of the Misar, the first digital computerized engine control. After two years Delco Electronics took over the business and moved the operation to former AC Electronics plant that DE had also taken over at Oak Creek in the Milwaukee, WI area. This was the beginning of computerized engine control which is standard today on all vehicles and was invented by Delco-Remy.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>28</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Laurel, MS</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1977-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    According to a Heavy Duty Remanufactured Starting Motor and Alternator Brochure dated 1981 Plant 28 in Laurel, MS was built specifically for the remanufacturing of Heavy Duty Motors and contained 200,000 square feet.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>29</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Albany, GA</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1978-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Produced 15SI, 17SI, CS130, CS130D and CS144 Alternators.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>33</TD><TD width=99 align=middle> </TD><TD width=102 align=middle> </TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Middle East Battery Company in Dammam, Saudi Arabia was assigned this number which started production on 12-29-1997 which is post DR. This may have replaced a number for a plant that was never built.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>34</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Gennevilliers (Paris), France</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1987-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=left>This was a plant run by GM of France produced starters, generators, and ignition coils along with spark plugs, filters, brakes and shock absorbers. In 1986 the product lines were turned over to the respective component divisions with DR selling the motor line to Daewoo Automotive Components, the ignition coil line being scrapped and the DIF generator being transferred to the new Villeron Plant in France.</TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>El Paso Warehouse</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>El Paso, TX</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1979-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    The El Paso Warehouse had no plant number associated with and was a leased facility of 80,000 square feet. Parts coming in and out of Mexico came through this location due to customs regulations.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>35</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Juarez, Mexico</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1979-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was built to produce many of the sensors and solenoids that DR was beginning to come out with at this time. Included in this product line would be ABS, transmission and knock sensors along with transmission solenoids. Plant 35 is still operating as a Delphi facility.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>36</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Sarreguemines, France</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1980-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Built to produce the Maintenance-Free Battery for the European market.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>38</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=left>The old Pepsi Plant on the west side of Anderson was the launch center until it moved back to Plant 18.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>39</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Indianapolis, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=left>This was a leased facility that worked on advanced lead acid, lithium polymer, nickel-zinc battery work and advanced rotating machines. Work on batter technology and drive motor systems began in 1990 at this location on the GM Impact which evolved into the GM EV1 in 1996 after this portion of Delco-Remy Division had become part of AC Delco Systems.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>40</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Piracicaba, Brazil</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1990-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Battery Plant
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>41</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Oshawa, Ontario, CA</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This battery plant was the red haired step child of the Division. It does not show up in the official histories or organization charts of the mid 70's of DR but in the the early 90's it was being claimed as a Division Battery Plant in marketing material being distributed to customers. It was actually inside the GM of Canada complex at Oshawa and may have originally been operated by that group and management responsibility transferred to DR. In the 2000's there were Delphi persons assigned to the plant.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>45</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1988</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was a leased facility on Dickey Road (400 South) on the south side of Anderson. The 4,000 square feet of office space may have been utilized by the Magnequench Group as they awaited the construction of Plant 46.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>46</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Anderson, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1985-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This was the Magnequench plant that produced rare earth neodymium magnets. The business is now owned by NEO Material Technologies in Toronto, Ontario, Canada but its plants are in China and Thailand.
    Home Design Products now molds plastic chairs and other items in the plant.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>47</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>
    </TD><TD width=102 align=middle> </TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Delco International Battery Co. in Shanghai, China was assigned this number in 1998 which is post DR.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>23 30 31 32 34 37 42 43 44 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 </TD><TD width=99 align=middle> </TD><TD width=102 align=middle> </TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Plant numbers unmatched to built plants, engineering centers, joint ventures or prospective plants that were never constructed.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle> </TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Luxembourg</TD><TD width=102 align=middle> </TD><TD width=386 align=middle>Shared Sales office with other GM Divisions.</TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>56</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>DAC (Daewoo Automotive Components), Taegu, Korea</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1986-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>57</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Chihuahua, Mexico</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1986-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Plants 57 and 58 were next to each other.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>58</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Chihuahua, Mexico</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1986-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>60</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Kumi, Korea</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1984-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    Delkor Battery Company
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>77</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Fishers, IN</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>?-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>
    This leased facility contained almost 25,000 square feet of offices and labs devoted to NiMH battery development and was in the Crosspoint Business Park.
    </TD></TR><TR><TD width=118 align=middle>98</TD><TD width=99 align=middle>Seixal, Portugal</TD><TD width=102 align=middle>1991-1994</TD><TD width=386 align=middle>This 61,000 square foot plant produced the Intergrated Coil Electronic (ICE) Ignition system.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>​

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  28. So close, but thanks for playing :D
    The name Delco came from the Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co., founded in Dayton, Ohio by Charles Kettering and Edward A. Deeds in 1909
     
  29. Very Good gentleman. For some reason I have had that small bit of information rolling around in my head for about fifty years. If you ask the average Hot Roder they never know the answer. Like it really matters.
     
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    Yup, that's the type I have, as well.
     

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