Pickle-Feet; Thje 326/285 HP High Output engien for 1967 in the Firebird had some special features. 10.5 - 1 pistons. Small combustion chamber heads (55cc Approx.) Good port size 1.94 intake / 1.64 exhaust The key ingrediant, it had the 400/350HP intake manifold. And a #461 Carter AFB 625cfm. (Same size as one of the 426 Street Hemi carbs) 1 7/16" primary / 1 11/16" secondary (Monster secondary venturi 1.563) Special dual exhaust system too. Long duration camshaft, and outer & inner valve springs. Good little engine. PC
I figured that there must be a difference in the originals and the current production parts. Best of Luck on your hunt !
If you look real hard at your '68 pic you'll see that it's a b&w of the above one with the Firebird with the Hoosier slicks and a new Chevy pickup in the background.
Butch, good to see Larry is okay; maybe next year he'll make York. Today I dragged my .030 283 out, found the "good" 520 heads and that other 8 quart moroso pan. Next year my delivery should have a more legit 283 in it like the rest of you guys...
White Power tribute car project finished!! Just in time- right on schedule for the Olds Nationals this week. Its been a hectic 2 month THRASH to get R Done -- She came to life and made noise on Thursday, lettering done and completed Friday night, and made a maiden voyage down Norwalk dragstrip yesterday. Needless to say theres some bugs to get worked out but it feels like lots of HP in there!! Wanted to post a few pix but for some reason they wouldnt upload! Will try to add them on to this post later. Maybe Pete can help me?
Well i didn't make york this year,but rose's glove box lid DID! A MILLION thank you's go out to George Cureton for making that happen for me!He was kind enough to do me the favor of taking Tokyo Rose's glove box lid with him to the reunion,signing it himself and getting it signed by Fred Borcherdt(i hope i spelled that right) and Bill Jenkins! George also bought me a pic of rose racing somewhere in action! SWEET! I thank you all for signing it and George i cannot thank you enough for taking it for me and getting me the picture!You are the BEST! THANK YOU!
P-F, The 326/285 HP "High Output" from Pontiac in 1967, was a one year only. In 1968, they went to a High Output 350 with 320HP. It ran in E/Stock in 1968 ((10.00 - 10.49 wt/hp). You wouldn't see many at the track, because the 400/330HP 68' Firebrird fell into the same class. PC
I thought George Cureton was such a great guy! Very interested and appreciative of the cars, and more than willing to talk about old stories and racing. Meeting him was one of the highlights of the trip. -Dean
T-N-T The 1968 Dodge Dart GSS440 was a Mr. Norm's package. Though, I think Tom Hoover was involved with several (not all) engine preparations. It was not orderable through your local Dodge dealer, unless they had a Mr. Norm connection. Not sure on the price, and/or complete engine specifications. My mind says 4.33 gears and fenderwell Hooker Headers. Automatic only. From what I can recall, standard 440 engines for NHRA, with 750 Carter AVS. I'm not even sure if they put on an Edelbrock aluminum DP intake on those cars. PC
T, I think the 273/235HP stock camshaft specifications are; .415/.425 lift with 248/248 duration (valve spring pressure w/valve open 210 lbs.) General Kinetics made a nice one though, .447/.447 lift with 262/266 duration) Called the 'Legal Cheater"
Yesterday I had a quick visit with Henry Ramsey, youngest son of Harold, and owner of Ramsey Pontiac in Chestertown, MD. Henry was pleased to show me photographs he recently received of his Dad's former 1963 SD Catalina, which has been restored to race trim. There was a Vargo dash plaque on the glovebox and the odometer is showing 1745 miles which makes me believe the car is for real. Also in the showroom were some photos of Harold's race cars including the '57 with which he won the 1959 Nationals held in Detroit. Since this was the first race for Stock Eliminator it could be argued that this is the birth of Jr. Stock. I did not have time to set up for any decent photos and settled for ones with lots of reflections and glare. Next time I'm up there I'll do some more and borrow some from Henry to share with everyone.
Hey Pete, Since your on the Pontiac. Any photos of Bob Gaudreau's 1966 GTO C/S 'Tin Tiger', sponsored by Paul Dodge Pontiac, from the 66'/67' circa. T-N-T, Go to post #1940. Thats the C/SA competition in 1969. Dave Duell's 1963 Model 440 426/425HP Max-Wedge (No hood scoop) Sponsored by 'Jegs' and prepped by Arlon Vanke. Fenton wheels PC
"Any photos of Bob Gaudreau's 1966 GTO C/S 'Tin Tiger'" Paul, Hello. Not really a good one, but better than none! Regards, Pete
I just knew you guys would come through. Bob Gaudreau out of Bristol, Ct. did alot of the driving of the GTO's. In 1965, the 65' GTO with the 389/360HP Tri-carb kind of owned B/S in the Northeast. Some good match races with the Olds cars. 1966, things changed a little!! Anyone remember when they first came out in 1964. The first 389 Tr-carb had 348HP. Ran in B/Stock. Just a couple of bolt-on performance items, and you were running 13.10's. Light car at #3306 lbs. The 64' 389/325HP 4-barrel also was classed in B/S. Didn't get a fair stock class break until 1968, (E/Stock). On the track, the Tri-carb was better, but on the street, the 4-barrel was a nice 'punch-n-go' car, and could idle all-day long without a problem. Also ran in SS/I in 1972 and up. PC
35touring, Thats SS/E. So that would mean; the 1966 4-4-2 (400/360HP (Tri-Carbed Car) would be a 1967 photo. Could it be John Molnar & Vance Brady In 1967 it would be either B/S or SS/E. PC
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