Register now to get rid of these ads!

Do you guys re-use old bolts?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Black Primer, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. holeshot
    Joined: Sep 18, 2009
    Posts: 1,519

    holeshot
    BANNED
    from Waxahachie

    PRIMER...certainly if the head is in good shape. the threads are good, and the bolt is streight. hell brother they cost a small fortune these day's...POP.
     
  2. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 23,333

    gimpyshotrods
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

  3. enjenjo
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 2,690

    enjenjo
    Member
    from swanton oh

    I saved bolts and nuts since the early 60s. A few years ago I decided I was not going to live long enough to use them. I have parted out and scrapped a ton of cars. So I got an old Dodge maxivan, no engine or trans. I knocked the windows out, and started throwing cans of bolts and nuts into the van. Took me a week to clean things up. The tires were flat, checked them, they had 40 psi in them. Pumped them up to 80 psi, and winched it on to the trailer. At the scrap yard, the van weighed 12,000 lbs.
     
  4. Deuce Roadster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2002
    Posts: 9,519

    Deuce Roadster
    Member Emeritus

    YES ... I do.

    I worked in a salvage yard part-time for many years and the other workers used to laugh at me because at closing time, I would go and pick up the bolts and nuts I wanted off the floor ( if they had disassembled a GM or Ford ) before they swept everything in the trash.


    I believe that the old 60's and 70's factory General Motors and Ford hardware is better than the new stuff you buy at Fastenal and other places ( especially the hardware store :( )

    I have 4 apple boxes full of good old GM and Ford supplied hardware and I use it whenever I can. A lot of it is special hard to find stuff too. :)
     
  5. youngrodder1929
    Joined: May 28, 2006
    Posts: 437

    youngrodder1929
    Member

    i stash all of em but if if it needs new i get new ones get gr 8s and sand or machine the heads smooth and for engines internals ARPs are the way to go
     
  6. New good stuff on critical components or follow 29nash's good advice. Just this morning had K-mac lower control arm cam & bolts installed. OEM originals (aussie '72 Falcon) are too thin in cam section & nuts are not deep enough for an effective re- torque- size matters with this particular Falcon set-up.
    The OEM oldies were used at last suspension rebuild and were a constant pain in the arse. Front end had kicked out- Tyres quickly chewed out. K-mac replacements have much more meat everywhere. Feels like my sweet old car again.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2010
  7. I use em all...................just me though
     
  8. model.A.keith
    Joined: Mar 19, 2007
    Posts: 6,279

    model.A.keith
    Member

    I re-cycle them from work ...:D...saves me a fortune



    .


    .
     
  9. I have to agree; one thing I hate about being a (relatively)young guy, I don't have a huge surplus of old nuts and bolts to rummage through like I had at dad's garage when I was a kid. I have some, but it seems I'm constantly running to the parts house for fasteners.
     
  10. Harry Bergeron
    Joined: Feb 10, 2009
    Posts: 345

    Harry Bergeron
    Member
    from SoCal

    I really hate the look of the new stuff, and use it as little as possible.
    I just donated some old aircraft fasteners to a race care restoration,
    and they were very happy to get it, since that's what rodders and racers
    used back in the day.

    BTW, used bolts and studs should not have sharp threads - new bolts have
    a tiny radius on the threads.
    Clean them up, clean off your fingers, and run up and down the threads.
    If they feel "sharp", toss them.
     
  11. onlychevrolets
    Joined: Jan 23, 2006
    Posts: 2,307

    onlychevrolets
    Member

    Hell yes I reuse bolts all the time.
     
  12. Learned a hard lesson by re-using pressure plate bolts when I broke one torquing at 30 lbs.

    I should have known better. :eek::rolleyes: HRP
     
  13. budhaboy
    Joined: Feb 6, 2007
    Posts: 157

    budhaboy
    Member

    in high stress areas, no, but even with low stress areas, I seem to torque the heads right off older bolts anyway(even after soaking with penetrating oils for several days), so it seems I replace them too.
     
  14. Fingers
    Joined: Feb 23, 2005
    Posts: 118

    Fingers
    Member

    I often replace bolts, but always keep the old stuff.
    Never know when you are going to need a nut or bolt.
     
  15. Airborne34
    Joined: Dec 4, 2007
    Posts: 635

    Airborne34
    Member
    from Texas

    I save alot of old nuts and bolts. I blast & re-use if I can. Depending on the application, I like to use stainless hardware. Dont have to worry about rust.

    Nothing beats Henry Steel in the end.
     
  16. PhilJohnson
    Joined: Oct 13, 2009
    Posts: 906

    PhilJohnson
    Member

    If it is something that has a a lot of stress I'll get new bolts, but for bolting on body panels I use used bolts all the time. When I scrap a car I'll strip off bolts and nuts and some wiring too along with all the bulbs.
     
  17. Yes on non critical and no on critical, but a big tip is never throw away fastners untill a better replacement is installed and to always bag and mark where they came from on a restore and to note missing or oddities on such.

    OT:
    I work in a parts store where we make custom hoses and most of the fittings have plastic caps for thread protection during shipment and I keep those in coffee can as they are great when blasting or painting or deep storage of protecting threads on parts.
     
  18. Flatheadguy
    Joined: Dec 2, 2008
    Posts: 2,037

    Flatheadguy
    Member

    In the aircraft world we have a term...On Condition. The only hardware things we do not reuse....cotter pins, safety wire, lock tabs, gaskets...like that. Bolts? Nuts? Washers? Lots of good answers in the posts above.
     
  19. oj
    Joined: Jul 27, 2008
    Posts: 6,459

    oj
    Member

    Depending on the project etc, generally i use new gr8 & stainless nuts. I save all old fasteners if in good condition and have enough of a collection so that for a special project i can make period correct. As others have said, i reuse most body bolts after cleaning.
    The real problem with all these fastenors is being able to store them in such a way as to be able to find them when you need them. Now that would make an interesting thread, getting people to show how they keep them.
     
  20. junkmonger
    Joined: Feb 9, 2004
    Posts: 653

    junkmonger
    Member

    Yes, for non-critical apps. I keep them in separate containers according to size and length so I can find them when I need them. If you can't find them they're no good to you.
     
  21. Stevie Nash
    Joined: Oct 24, 2007
    Posts: 2,999

    Stevie Nash
    Member

    I was just thinking about replacing the control arm bolts on my late 70's Oldsmobile front clip. Were would I get these? The old ones are REALLY worn in the middle. Just replaced the bushings...
     
  22. hammeredcoupe
    Joined: Feb 28, 2008
    Posts: 513

    hammeredcoupe
    Member
    from Tacoma,WA

    I agree with every one above regarding critical stress applications. Always replace with new. But for sheet metal, interior, anything exposed i prefer the look of original. Strip it,wire wheel it,and re use it.
     
  23. 29nash
    Joined: Nov 6, 2008
    Posts: 4,542

    29nash
    BANNED
    from colorado

    I recycle all chassis fasteners, as someone pointed out, on 'condition' of the fastener, with no doubt that they could be used repeatedly and would serve well forever as long as they are not damaged. I prefer the old over the new, forsake the idea of having 'new' simply for bling.

    Motor bolts;
    Clutch and flywheel mount bolts, if I could come to a reasonable conclusion that they new and torqued properly before I removed them, I might re-use those. Otherwise they go in the scrap. They are the most likely of all high stress bolts in a motor to fail. If a motor was known to have been de-tuned or had sudden stoppage, then all bolts in the rotating assembly are put in the scrap. If the motor has had no major failure, has just worn out, I normally re-use the rest of the bolts after thourough cleaning and inspection, to include measuring for indications of necking, stretching, and magnaflux for cracks.
    If I know that a bolt has been overtorqued it goes in the scrap. In cases where a bolt is measured with a stretch gauge to determine final torque I only use them once.
     
  24. 29nash
    Joined: Nov 6, 2008
    Posts: 4,542

    29nash
    BANNED
    from colorado

    I always replace a bolt that shows wear to a measurable degree.
     
  25. 61TBird
    Joined: Mar 16, 2008
    Posts: 2,640

    61TBird
    Member

    I save;
    Body hardware-Fender/Bumper/Hood/Trunk and SOME engine accessory bolts.
    The old Exhaust Manifold bolts/studs get tossed when I replace them.
    I only had to snap a stud off flush with the manifold once to learn that lesson.....
    ALL trim screws/clips that I can find.

    It's amazing how many "fall' into my pockets at Pick-N-Pull....:D
     
  26. The Cap'n
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 117

    The Cap'n
    Member
    from Kansas

    Absolutely...with the right application.

    When doing any high end restoration work on early cars the hardware has to be correct! Early bolt heads are not only thicker (taller) than they are today but didn't have even remotely similar markings on the head (if any). Same goes with nuts, they were generally thicker than the modern equivalent. There are specialty places that make new nuts and bolts that are correct for early cars but they cost an arm and a leg...so yup, I'll re-use old nuts and bolts if they're in good shape.
     
  27. Yes, I reuse everything I can. I agree on high stress applications ner stuff is the way to go but, why not reuse the old stuff when you can. I got a big HF tumbler at an auction for $10 a while back and it makes them look brand new.
     
  28. AntiBling
    Joined: Jul 25, 2004
    Posts: 612

    AntiBling
    Member

    Taking my front clip apart I ended up with a lot of rusted out or sheered off bolts. So rather than mixing new fasteners with old, I saved all the old ones, and just replaced everything with the same size new. Sometime I'm going to go up in my private junkyard and strip down a 55 ford that's scrap quality and get every nut and bolt I can get off of that and see if I can't get a set of used bolts to replace the rusted out ones and go back to some original stuff. Also enough to use on bracing i build for the fenders since I'm not running inner fenders yet.
     
  29. nutajunka
    Joined: Jan 24, 2007
    Posts: 1,464

    nutajunka

    If the bolts are not critical or hard to find, I just twist them in half. Saves time and and I like using new correct hardware.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.