why do alot of people use a jaguar readend??

i did search and couldnt find anything but i have seen alot of hot rods/trad. rods use a jaguar rearend. why do people use these??? is it because of the gearing in them or what???

also are there very many people that run a irs under their trad. rod or hot rod?? i been thinking about doing this to save head room in the rear so i can still have the rear seats for the family.

thanks for any help and input to why i been seeing alot of jaguar rearends.

 

So they can show off all the money they spent to whoever is following being mesmerized by all the twirling parts.

 

I haven't been seeing too many in the last few years,,but they were extreamly popular in the seventys and early eightys.

I think the number one reason is they just looked cool,,and road pretty good,,,the gearing was like most other rear axles,,a good many to choise from.

They usually made the car set up higher than normal and because of that the travel up and down could be limited.

I still think they look great under a car that the entire rear axle can be seen,,,like the Model A's. HRP

 

the inboard disc brakes were cool too


skull

 

i'll have to echo HRP on that; fully chromed, a Jag IRS is a sight to behold. it's also expensive to maintain and repair if it breaks..... and it ain't much good on the back of a car with a staight front axle. John Buttera used them in the 70's and they caught on pretty quickly. there's even units made that use a 9" Ford pumpkin. dunno if i'd consider them "trad" yet... if you're gonna push a lot of HP through a series of U-joints, you'd want as few of them as possible IMHO!

another thing about them is that they drop right out of the donor car with about 6 bolts undone.... talk about a quick change...

 

For the era (1970's) they were very cool looking on some Hot Rods especially if they were chrome.

 

It's like anything else, they were available, had a cool look and made your car ride nice.

 

HAHAHA...that is so dead on !!!

 

thanks for all the replays and not bashing me for asking.
i seen a few at some car shows and the chrome ones really stood out to me but i thought there was more of a reason to it then just the look but thanks again for helping me out.

im still learning the hot rodding stuff but im into any custom cars.

 

there were not a lot of other viable options if you wanted IRS in the seventies. In that time frame they were pretty advanced stuff

 

I think the Jags only came with only two or three gear ratios, BUT, Corvette gears bolt right in!

They became "Traditional" as soon as the first Jags hit and hit the junk yard.

The XK-E was the right width but the sedans had the 5 bolt pattern so you swapped parts or narrowed the sedan axles and arms.

They came along when hot rodding a car meant constantly improving on what was done last year, not going backwards to some anachronistic idea.

 

Oh, well in that case the only thing the fuckin' Brits ever made worth a shit was fish and chips and Guiness beer. And the beer is only good if youv already had a half a case of Shiner.

 

The Jag rear is pretty and adaptable to any hotrod even 55-57 Chevys have been built with them. The differential is a simple GM one so parts and gears are easy to find and reasonable.

 

Can you say IRS?

 

my brother seen a mag. with one(jag irs ) in a 68 camaro soo hed wanted on in his 69, well we ended up with a vette irs a real bugger to install(this was 87) and it still not right, but when you gass it it squats and books just like a vette

 

i do belieave they have a dana (60 iirc) center

 

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Yep. And I've heard they've fallen out of
favor a bit in recent years too. Too many
guys getting killed by their *gold chains*
getting caught in all those exposed shiny
expensive moving parts!!!! (LOL!)

mart
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Interesting...

I didnt know that word, so I looked it up.


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Hot Rods were constantly improving.

Untill building a Hot Rod meant MII, 8", 350/350, Tweed, and lots of bubble wrap Billet.

Compared to that, reaching back to the more pure and basic way the earlyer cars were built was a vast improvement...

 

By the way you can thank the Irish for Guiness not the Brits. if your going to start bashing a country and its culture try getting the right one first. and back to our regular scheduled programming.

 

For anyone who's interested, I found
a good tech article on adapting Jag
rear ends to other cars at the the
"Dazed Cars" site. While the article
is specifically concerned with fitting
a Jag IRS under a 1st generation
Mustang, the procedure and
information should applicable to
just about any other car or rod
too.

mart
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Putting Independent Rear Suspension (IRS) in a Classic Mustang

Dazed Cars - Home
http://home.bresnan.net/~dazed/DazeCars

Page I : Why make the upgrade and Fords
original IRS design.
http://dazed.home.bresnan.net/JaguarIRS1.html

Page II : Where to find a unit, and then
taredown, and cleaning.
http://dazed.home.bresnan.net/JaguarIRS2.html

Page III, Narrowing of the LCAs and half
shafts and converting the Jaguar bolt
pattern to a Ford bolt pattern.
http://dazed.home.bresnan.net/JaguarIRS3.html

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Well here in New Zealand they are still as popular as they ever were.
I have jag Front and rear in my '49 Lincoln coupe.
They are tough Dana rears and handle a heap of HP.
The disc brake set up is bullet proof.
The ride is simply amazing.
IF they are set up right.
The demand for jag front and rear in NZ is still good
and the cost of maintenance is no worse than any other
good system.

Do a search on HAMB and you will find a ton of good info on them.

JM2CW

 

Ok, let me back up a bit. The only thing the Brits ever made worth a shit was fish and chips and Lucas electronics. How's that?

Someone one told me once the only reason Brits like their beers warm is because they own Lucas refrigerators.

 

The Jag is an attractive option for installing IRS where it was not originally offered because of it' configuration as a (more or less) self-contained unit. Kustombuilder used one in a beautifully executed install in a 57 Buick to convert to open drive and solve the suspension issue inherent in doing so in the torque-tube equipped Buicks. Furthermore, you get the benefits of disc brakes and I believe a Dana 44(?) center section. A buddy of mine stuck one under his LT1 equipped '89 Camaro and has logged many trouble free miles while enjoying it's handling and performance.

 

LUCAS??

I thought that was the reason for the demise of the British Empire..

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Jaguar rear ends are easy to setup and you can get any spring rate or ride height that you want. They are a Chevy bolt pattern 5 on 4 3/4 and the differential is almost the same as a Dana 44. There is just about any gear choice and lsd available and you can still pick one up cheap. We still use them and have never had a single problem with any of them. People actually give us the whole car and we take out the rear end and front suspension as it also unbolts in a carrier group and will fit under any fat fender Chevy/Ford without any modification and yes they do look good chrome and the U-joints are standard Chevy truck.

 

Jaguar used Salisbury Diffs..which were Dana in England. Dana gears are a direct bolt in. Even my 53 120 has the Salibury (Dana) diff..but not IRS. Very strong gears. Lumpers (Jags with mostly SBC and BBC) still will use the stock IRS..and gear sets.

I know a gent from down under that races (sedan road racing) an XJ6 with a twin turbo 454..he has blown the diff but gets quite a few races from the stock set up.

 

So, Jag axle, good ride, easy to narrow, good range of ratios, looks great chromed, comes with disc brakes, and just about ever type of locker available off the shelf to fit.

As a Brit I can not but be offended,
As I recall we gave you the jet engine and Ford winning at Le Mans with the Eric Broadley designed Lola re-badged as a GT40 !

I would respectfully suggest that someone who only views a country in terms of what he can push in his gob, is successfully achieving the stereotype of the rest of the world's view of a typical Texan.

 

You might want to TARGET your "offence" at a poster rather than the every HAMB member... or get thicker skin..

 

This Thread is getting derailed pretty far...

Fish, Chips or Guiness dont have a lot to do with Jag suspensions.

Ford and Eric Broadley did a hell of a lot more than just rebadge the Lola GT to get the GT40.

And we can be on the HAMB thanks to a guy who lives in Texas...