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unearthing an old heap after 20years , flat tires, frozen drums etc

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by beaulieu, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. Abomination
    Joined: Oct 5, 2006
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    Abomination
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    Oh, dude!

    What the hell happened to that poor IHC?

    ~Jason

     
  2. JamesG
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    Sometimes a good hammer will help break free stuck drums. Heat is also good too.
     
  3. Paul Y
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    Another vote for the blow up bag.

    Used one about a year ago to get a car out for a friend. Dug a hole under the front of the car and put a scaffold board at the bottom and then conneted it up to the exhaust pipe and up it came.

    Few more scaffold boards under the wheels and then repeated at the back, used a vw bonnet as a skid once the car was clear of the ground and dragged it with a landrover onto hard standing.

    Took about an hour in total, local 'specialist' with a JCB (backhoe) had spent a day there the previous week and only succeeded in tearing the ground to shreds and burning a tank full of diesel.

    Good luck, sounds very exciting. We will of course want pictures.

    P.
     
  4. Abomination
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    FYI, JCB:
    http://www.jcbamericas.com/app/home.aspx

    MONSTERS!

    ~Jason

     
  5. 53Heavy
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    4x4 bumper jack, 4x6's, a come-along or winch, and lots of dish soap on the tires, boards, and trailer. The soap is very slick and the cleanup is much better that using anything oil based (and is better for the enviro :D). I speak from experience moving a '50 Chevy pickup on 4 flat siezed up wheels from a field.
     
  6. captainjunk#2
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    did you retrieve the convertable yet ?
     
  7. motownmuscle
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    from Detroit

    I move lots of stuff by myself (lack of people to help me around here -wife's too petite). Most anything heavy and made of steel will slide easily on wood. I'd get various timbers, 4"x4"x10' or bigger and other assorted short pieces, some jacks (bottle, floor jack, screw jacks etc..) and jack stands. Jack it up safely and solidly. Slide the timbers under it and lower onto the timber using the frame or suspension mounts to carry the weight. Should slide pretty easily, right onto a rollback if you can get a truck to it. I have also drilled holes (big enough for a chain to pass through) in the ends of timbers such as this. Hook the chains to the timbers, and pull the timbers as a skid with a winch, truck etc.
     
  8. Bruce Lancaster
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    "...What the hell happened to that poor IHC?"

    Ah, just toss some gravel under the back tires and it'll go. Easiest way to get the gravel there will be to dig through from China...
     
  9. Nooj
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    I second the dish soap idea, as opposed to oil. Smells better too :D

    A rollback would be great. But either way, you're in for some digging, jacking, and backfilling to get it above ground level. Once it's up, sled it or put on some wheels/tires, and you'll be in bidness.

    Good luck, be safe, and take some pics.

    Nooj
     
  10. PIC'S? I want to see this thing
     
  11. henry29
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    So did you get it?
     
  12. beaulieu
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    nope not yet , now the owner says he has to ask his son who he gave it to in 1968.......

    and its been sitting since around then....

    Beaulieu
     
  13. UnIOnViLLEHauNT
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    You aint kidding! I was pulling a 51 Merc out of a garage in the hood on 4 flats last summer. What. A. Bitch.

    I thought I was going to die in that driveway. 1000 degrees easily.

    Ended up pulling my truck and trailer toward the Merc instead of the other way around! I ended up dropping the trailer in the street, pulling 2 tires off, going home for another 2 Merc rims, going to my old shop and mount 4 junk tires, go back up, put em on and of course, my winch battery died. Had to back up into the tightest driveway in the world and luckily just neutreled it and rolled it on. I got one tie down on and left. Went around the corner and got like 294 bottles of water, sat in the lot drinking water for like 30 mins (thought I was going to die)

    Got the rest of the tie downs on and hit the highway!
     
  14. ever heard of a skid loader???
     
  15. How long do you heat the hammer?:D
     
  16. Mudslinger
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    IM watching a car for over a year, same story except its his buddy he promised the car to.
     
  17. petritl
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    Owner said they ran when they were parked!!
    [​IMG]
     
  18. wagonman
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    I got a 60 cad. years ago same deal. I dug out the tires and added air. 3 out of 4 held air.Got a flat bed and pulled it right out.
    Buty that was a Cad. not a porche.
     
  19. Arthur
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    Put wheels on it with tires that hold air. Take along a small cold chisel,a hammer,and a can of WD*40. Use the chisel and hammer to cut the heads off the pins that hold the brake shoes to the backing plates,and then spray some WD-40 inside the brake drums to help get it rolling.

    If all else fails,take along a couple of quarts of ATF and lube up the boards you are sliding it on and your trailer ramps. Lube up the bottoms of the tires,too. You would be surprised at how easy one is to load that way even if the tires don't roll.

    Cutting the heads from the brake shoe retaining pins should do the trick,though. You might be surprised at how easy they are to cut off with a chisel and a hammer.
     
  20. Arthur
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    Ok,in that case take along a shovel and a small bottle jack with some some short sections of 2x6's to sit the jack on after you have dug a hole under the car. A couple of shot 2x4 blocks wouldn't hurt,either. You can use them at the top of the jack to help spread the weight around.

    I once went to Georgia to pick up a 55 DeSoto,and didn't know until I got there that the car was sitting in a old goat pen,and had sank into the goat crap/ground so deep the bottoms of the wheels had rusted off. Having had ugly experiences getting old cars in the past,I automatically carry 4 tires and wheels with me that will fit what I'm going after,as well as a shovel,a bottle jack,a high lift farm jack,and a small floor jack. Not to mention a battery powered impact wrench,all sorts of chain,etc,etc,etc.

    I had to dig holes to get the jack under it,then jack each corner up out of the dirt,put blocks under it,and then jack it up again with blocks under the jack in order to get it high enough to put the good tires on it. I didn't want to dig holes under the tires to get them on because it would just make it harder to pull the car. Which worked out well because I didn't have room to back my trailer up behind it,and had to unhook the trailer and drag the damn thing around sideways to get it to line up. Good thing I had a 4X4 F-350 then or I'd never have been able to get it out.

    If you don't have access to a battery powered impact like mine with 240 ft lbs of torque,make damn sure you take a piece of pipe with you at least 3 feet long to help you break the lug nuts loose.

    Also,a doubling pulley for your winch.
     
  21. SlamCouver
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    So what ever came of this?
     
  22. gnarlytyler
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    Yeah man if it aint yours just leave it there to rot, afterall just cause a car is buried so many feet in the dirt doesn't mean the owners not planning to restore it some day.. thats just common sense.
     
  23. I just dragged a53 dodge 2 door sw home it had been sitting for 24 years. Jacked each corner broke the drums free on the front got the drum off beat the shoes off in the back just broke the drums. Mounted some roller tires ,put some scrap plywood under each wheel.Hooked a tow bar to it and pulled it out with my old toyota truck. bring lots of wood blocks good hammer and crow bar,have at it.
     
  24. Abomination
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    Yeah - we never even got to find out what it was!

    :(

    ~Jason

     
  25. kenny g
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    C 4.will get it out and it will be easy to load.
     
  26. The37Kid
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    After all the advice I wonder if we'll ever know, or even care.:rolleyes:
     
  27. 47 jailbar
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    I just wasted my life clicking on five pages of nothing. Interesting story.
     
  28. Ebbsspeed
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    Yeah, I thought maybe there was actually som additional info about this car and the exhumation of said phanthom vehicle.
     
  29. StLouisSled
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    Kinda leaves you hangin'
    I hate suspense
     
  30. Bullshit to not even tell us what it was. I mean seriously its not made of unobtanium. If it needs to be dug out from a ways down from sitting, more then likely its gonna be wasted to where you might be able to deem it a parts car. Sad I was hoping to get to the center of the tootsy pop after a month passing and 5 pages of thread. Well at least I got to see the wasted porsche and mercedes.

    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...th-my-porsche/

    -Weeks
     

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