Just as a FYI, in case you haven't heard.... the old Y block book by James Eickman is back in print & available through Motorbooks.com, for $19.95...actually on sale right now for $14.96. People have paid ridiculous prices for this book for years...& now that it's back in print, guys are buying them & trying to eBay them off for the same ridiculous prices. Save your cash and get it from Motorbooks, Amazon, or a local bookstore.... BTW, the book is more of a history and a basic rebuild than anything else, & has some errors...but, as the only book ever wriiten specifiically about the Y block, it does have its place.
I've been knee-deep in a 292 for the last month, and I was researching this, and heard the same thing...I guess Amazon and the like will have them now? I heard that they were bringing $ 120+ on the bay...damn!
The price of that book was freaking ridiculous!! I came across a guy that offered to photo copy the entire book, and sell it to me for $50. I was wondering why it's never been reprinted. Thank you for the heads up!
http://www.motorbooks.com/Store/ProductDetails_38813.ncm http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b...3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=eickman&x=11&y=22 Photofink, there are several errors in minor issues like casting numbers, hp ratings, years of certain parts, etc. Nothing earthshaking. I can list them if you're interested. However... The major error is on page 72...in the picture of the timing chain & gears, it shows the dots on the wrong side (U.S.A. passenger) of the engine, and they should be on the USA driver's side. The Y has the unique (so far as I know) timing set orientation anyway, & this just makes it more complicated. BTW, some of the aftermarket timing sets have the "dots" in the wrong place...bottom line...degree in the cam... Squirrel...yep. From '57-'59 many Ford/Merc Ys got ECZ-G heads, including certain T-Birds, passenger cars, light trucks, & medium trucks...
Do you suppose Mummert has annotated his copy? (I'm sure he has one.) Maybe he'd be willing to share his error notations.
I did not know that book used to be so rare, I bought mine at a swap meet about 5 years ago for 2 bucks. Thanks for pointing out the errors.
Important, no (guess that depends on the viewpoint; I'm not a restorer, so some of these mean very little to me one way or t'other...) with the exception of one item, which won't be an issue for most builds. pg 17: the 312 nomenclature was ECZ, not ECJ pg 17: the 285 hp version had a "rated" 10.5:1 compression, as the heads were milled .050 from the factory (ALL Y blocks have lower compression than the "rated" numbers...) pg 27: the truck casting was 5750471 pg 28: chart: some sources say that ALL '57-'59 heads are ECZ-G....not true, but many of them are. ECZ-E & ECZ-F may not exist...never run across them personally, & I've heard yes & no. The EDB heads are rare as hell, & the 471 heads are often considered as an equivalent for them. The 113 heads are similar to ECZ-G but with slightly different (deeper) chambers. The 5750471 heads are not listed, nor are the C2AE; nor are the C1TE truck heads with 1.64" intakes. Bottom line on the heads, go to Mummert's web site which has a more thorough chart. pg 29: The 239 cranks are interchangable into later non-312 blocks, but the oiling holes are different which could (possibly) lead to oiling issues; the 239 rod bearing inserts were different as a result, but later bearings are interchangable; 312 cranks can be turned down to fit into earlier blocks (not an error per se; not all cranks have slingers. pg 29: C1TE steel cranks were available from '61-'64, earlier ones were cast regardless of application. These C1TE steel cranks were used in medium trucks (again, not exactly an error, I suppose it depends on your definition of a MD vs. a HD truck). pg 30: As noted there are a number of different exhaust manifolds; he doesn't mention that T-Bird manifolds are different from pass car manifolds, and '55-'56 manifolds are different from '57-up. pg 38: the rod number mentioned should be C1TE-6200-C, commonly known as "C1TE rods". He mentions the difference in weight, which is true, but neglects to note that it's because they are SHORTER than a regular 239/256/272/292 rod (any of those part #s). The C1TE rods are the same length as the 312 rods, because the '61-'64 MD trucks used pistons with a taller compression height. In one case I know of, a "builder" (term used loosely) used these C1TE rods with replacement 292 pistons. (So far as I know the truck-type pistons are not available new.) The pistons sat approx. .120 down in the hole at TDC...loooooooow compression. The next owner got stuck with that one. pg 44: one item not mentioned is that the earlier distributor MUST be used with the correct carburetor...swapping on a later carb of any type without the spark control valve will lead to various problems. pg 72: timing chain installation issues as mentioned.
Wow...thank you, saved all the info and will put it in my book. Man I had no idea that they were going for so much! I saw one for sale in the classifieds not too long ago for $75 and I thought the guy was crazy...
Ordered one yesterday. I called them, and she tried to charge me the $19.95 price. I told her that wasn't the sale price on their site, she said "Oh it is? Would you like that price instead?". Duh! Just saw a copy on ebay for $35 plus $7.50 shipping.
Yup I saw the same auction. I almost ordered two to try and sell one to pay for the other. About my luck though I'd get stuck with them both. Thanks for the tip homespun!
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