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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sharp21, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. sharp21
    Joined: Jun 12, 2007
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    sharp21
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    from Spring, TX

    Hey gang
    Ive been kicking this idea around for a while & am finally gonna give it a go on my sisters car.
    Paint the whole thing flat black, then mask off flames & shoot clear. This way the flames will be gloss while the rest of the car flat. Do some red or grey pinstriping to show the difference...
    I sprayed the flat tonight. Try to mask the flames tomorrow.
    Keep in mind this is just on a p.o.s. im using for practice...
    S.
     
  2. cretin
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    something like this
     

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  3. sharp21
    Joined: Jun 12, 2007
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    sharp21
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    from Spring, TX

    Oh man..
    Well if a 1980 plymouth volare could look that good, then yes just like that!
    Thanks for the pic, ive never seen one like that before..
    S.
     
  4. CLSSY56
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    Here's mine last year, I have since started to strip her down.
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  5. pan-dragger
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    looks like a sticker, leaves a nasty paint edge.
     
  6. metalshapes
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  7. sharp21
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    from Spring, TX

    Those are looking good.
    Im planning on doing a white pinstripe around the outline...
    So as im doing this with all tremclad rattlecans im not sure if I should shoot a clear over the flat for the flames, or just shoot a gloss black? Ive heard that sometimes rattlecan clear doesnt turn out too good...
    S.
     
  8. metalshapes
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    I used Rattlecan Satin Black, with Gloss Black Rattlecan Flames.

    The Flames could have been a bit more shiny.
    They are not real obvious...

    Better paint might have made them stand out more.

    Maybe you'll get more contrast with Clear....
     
  9. Here's my Panhead With flat black base and airbrushed flames. It does look cool but people always ask if the flames are stickers. I finished the bike about four or five years ago and I really haven't had any problems with the paint. fin9 small.jpg
     
  10. wz56km
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    I know a lot of people are going to be up in arms because those are "tribal" looking flames but I think that car looks amazing. I'm not even a big fan of flat black but that car... something about it just looks good.
     
  11. sharp21
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    I never layed flames with outline tape before so I did some practice on my bike. I think with a bit of practice ill be able to get some on. Im gonna spray them with the gloss black, then maybe clear the top of that...
    The base coat is done & looks pretty good
    S.
     
  12. SlowandLow63
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    If your going to spend the time to tapeout and mask flames, why waste the effort with rattlecans. I know its practice, but how will you know if the real thing will turn out good. Unless you plan on using rattlecans for the real thing as well. If so, godspeed. You get out what you put in.
     
  13. lowriding 'lane
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    i know it's not a hot rod... but i did the opposite with my daily driver bronco, i had green flames on it and it was all bc/cc but i didn't like the green anymore, so i just masked the flames and shot with a semi-flat black rattle can paint. it's been holding up fine, once in a while a little green shows through when i bash it against a tree but a little touch up and it's good to go

    from this
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    to this
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  14. sharp21
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    sharp21
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    from Spring, TX

    The rattlecans are kind of the point with this project...
    Ive done a lot of reading about the $50 paintjob on one of the mopar boards. I see a link to it on the front page here!
    To be honest, this car is like a piece of swiss cheese. There may even be a spot or 2 with some duct tape & bondo... So im not looking to turn the garage into a booth & etc etc. Quick drying Tremclad all the way! Plus ive always wanted to do a flame job & this will be good practice laying it out as well as striping the outline...
    Ill mask the flames tomorrow
    S.
     
  15. sharp21
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    I shot the flames.
    Should i let it dry completely before removing the tape, or do it while its still drying?
    S.
     
  16. SlowandLow63
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    Up to you. If you pull it wet you risk dipping somehting in it, tape, finger, hair whatever; but you reduce the chance for undercut. When you pull it dry, follow it with a blade because depending on the product, undercut is likely.
     
  17. sharp21
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    The finished product. Not bad for a freshman attempt!
    S.

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  18. sharp21
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    Im having trouble finding 1shot, but when I do ill stripe it in grey
    S.
     
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    I just broke out singing an old Mopar Ad......Vo lare'!.. la la la laaa....
     

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