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Art & Inspiration That WWII Aero-Engine Look

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  1. Ned Ludd
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    I've been developing a fondness for the aesthetics of liquid-cooled WWII-era aero engines: lots of gloss black paint and rows of bright fasteners. And so I'm wondering about dressing an automotive engine in line with that kind of vibe. I'm looking for photos of engines in hot rods etc. that have that feel: what have you got?

    First, though, this is the look I'm talking about:
    Black engine 001 Griffon.JPG
    Rolls-Royce Griffon

    Black engine 002 Griffon.JPG
    Rolls-Royce Griffon

    Black engine 003 Merlin.JPG
    Rolls-Royce/Packard Merlin

    Black engine 004 Merlin.JPG
    Rolls-Royce Merlin

    Black engine 005 Allison.JPG
    Allisons had blue-grey crankcases: perhaps appropriate for the block on a Pontiac engine?

    Black engine 006 Allison.JPG
    Allison

    Black engine 007 Napier Lion.JPG
    Napier Lion

    Black engine 008 Junkers Jumo.JPG
    Junkers Jumo opposed-piston diesel

    Black engine 009 Daimler-Benz.JPG
    Daimler-Benz inverted V12

    Black engine 010 Rolls Royce.JPG
    Rolls-Royce stuck with the look for the L410 V8 from 1959 on.

    Black engine 011 Rolls Royce.JPG
    Arguably RR had been doing it that way since before WWII, though.

    Black engine 012 63 Lincoln 430.JPG
    Lincoln gave black engines a go for a while in the early '60s.

    Black engine 013 Cadillac V16.JPG
    It could be said that the Cadillac Series 452 V16 already epitomized the look in 1930.

    Black engine 014 Cadillac V16.JPG
    Cadillac V16

    Now I could image-search "hot rod black engine" and still have to sift through a lot of stuff I'm not after, while my fellow HAMBers might know exactly where to look. Show me some!
     
  2. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I wonder if the aero engines were black to help radiate heat?
     
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  3. gnichols
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    It's pretty cold up there already. Perhaps black was just one of the least expensive paints?
     
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  4. Roothawg
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    It was to hide the leaks....;)
     
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  5. Bird man
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    One engine that comes to mind is the OHC Pontiac.
    70's Nissans have that look but that wouldn't "fly" here.
    Oh, A Jag 6 would be killer!
     
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  7. Most engines done that way are OT.
    I see a lot of builds in shops dressing engines in black, grays, no chrome other that fasteners.
    I dig it
     
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  8. F87AE50D-7E87-4764-9BF8-B4BB5FF00B8F.jpeg
    the wires are tied together and hoses are wire clamped in an aviation style.
    Allan’s brother is into old planes. He showed us how to do this.
    It’s a very simple, affordable and clean alternative to unsightly hose clamps.
    The higher end builds had the headers and some had the entire exhaust porcelain coated.

    the block castings were polished smooth/primed and overhangs ground flush, excess gasket material trimmed off.
     
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  9. unforgiven
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    That is one of the best looking flatheads I have ever seen
     
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  10. pwschuh
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    Can you imagine the looks you'd get pulling up to any hot rod meet running a car with an inverted V-8?
     
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  11. Back in the '60s, one of my first mentors told me a 'quote' that an old timer had told him years before...........
    "There's only one high-performance color and that's black."
     
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  12. Was a good bit of work. We had a young helper polish the block. Fit the major pieces and ground em flush or cleaned up any unnecessary casting overhang. Me and Allen sanded the block smooth after epoxy then it was sprayed gloss black. The engine was built by Keith Dorton. (Hope I spelled that correctly). NASCAR engine guru. If memory is correct, it’s 274 inches.
    The pumps were cut and stretched downward to line up the inlets with the radiator.
    stuff like header and exhaust flanges were usually milled.
     
  13. Joe Blow
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    @Blues4U excellent pics.....I think at the Aces car show.

    DSC_4590.JPG IMG_2378.JPG
     
  14. Blues4U
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    ^^That'd be the "Tuxedo Coupe" built by Hot Head Lou.
     
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  15. BMW 14 Cylinder . IMG_20230102_201531462.jpg IMG_20230102_201531462.jpg
     
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  16. Johnny Gee
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  17. Here’s a video on the aviation style hose clamp
     
  18. 1B70332A-2779-499A-8C40-60FCAFEF2D66.jpeg
    This Duesenberg is pure art
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    Bugatti.
    the plumbing, fabricated rocker covers and neat hose clamps either was influenced by aviation or maybe just the craftsmanship of that time period.
    Not black as asked by the op but not dressed up with chrome or painted the typical colors for “hot rod” engines.
    Aviation and early Indy cars were used as examples for engine “dress up” at my former work place.
     
  19. stuart in mn
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    Another example of black aesthetic inspiration is the engine in Vincent motorcycles. I like the finned cylinders with just the edges polished.

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  20. I have the Fenton exhaust manifolds on my 265" SBC.
     
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  22. Bandit Billy
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    I always liked the look of a black block with shiny bits, so that is what I did on my current PU. 330 Desoto
    upload_2023-1-4_13-36-51.png
    I like the monochromatic look although there isn't much viewing room once the Hemi is installed. I did paint the intake black and used SS fasteners on it as well.
    upload_2023-1-4_13-40-37.png
    And it extends to the rest of the drive train. Everything gloss black with SS hardware.
    upload_2023-1-4_13-46-36.png
    Not as pretty as the RR (Rolls Royce not Rat Rod :cool:) engines but all I have.
     
  23. Look up cable lacing
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  24. GeeRam
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    Funny this should pop up, as only just a few weeks ago, I made the decision to do my sbc in black with shiney bits combination.
     
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  25. Cosmo49
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    These engines are just dreamy!!! Dang, I just might paint my Chevy 261 Glossy Black!
     
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  27. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I like the idea of castings ground smooth and am replicating that look on my Duesenberg-esque Ford crossflow six
    but
    I'm not a fan of bundling spark plug wires together because of the possibility of inductive cross fire.
     

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