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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Barbarian, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. Barbarian
    Joined: May 5, 2019
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    Barbarian
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    from New Jersey

    Came across this picture in the wild pipes thread. Anyone have more pictures or details? Looks like possibly a T cowl then A doors and quarters? 18508496-1EB4-48C9-9D0B-9485BE30DE1C.jpeg
     
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  2. gnichols
    Joined: Mar 6, 2008
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    from Tampa, FL

    I'm thinking the cowl and body are an early A. No? The doors are welded shut and the A pillars / OEM windshield removed. Should have filled the wheel wells, too, while they were at it.
     
  3. 29 Model A coupe with the top cut off. T windshield.
     
  4. redo32
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
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    I recognized Bob Stewarts '32 Vicky and the San Diego Prowlers plaque. Did a google and came up with this: owned by Bob Smith

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    from Kustomrama:
    1927 Ford Model T Roadster Pickup originally owned and built by Chuck Gibson, a charter member of the San Diego Prowlers Car Club. Chuck Gibson, also known as "Hoot", was the first of 4 Prowlers members to own the roadster. Chuck owned the car in the 1940s and the early 1950s, and used it to race at the dry lakes.[1] When Chuck owned the car it consisted of a widened 1927 Ford Model T body that was channeled over a 1932 Ford chassis. The cowl was lengthened and the car was fit with a louvered 3-pieced-hood, and a 1932 Ford grille shell. Chuck sold the car to fellow Prowlers member Carl Burnett in the early 1950s.[2]


    When Carl got the car he decided to convert it from a record chasing roadster pickup into a show winning roadster. He straightened the body and turned it into a roadster by grafting a trunk onto the car. A Henry J deck lid was used to create the new trunk. Austin Healey taillights were fit to the Henry J deck lid. The rear frame rails were stepped, raising the crossmember over a 1936 Ford suspension setup. Carl removed the hood in order to show off the hopped up 1948 Ford 256-cubic inch flathead V8 engine. The engine was hopped up featuring a Clay Smith three-quarter cam and an Evans competition manifold with four Stromberg 97s mounted on it. Evans heads and Jahns pistons boosted the compression up to 8 1/2 to 1. Carl routed the exhaust over the frame and around the body. According to Carl, the engine produced 175 hp at the flywheel. The engine was hooked to a 1939 Ford transmission and a 1936 Ford rear end with 3.78 gears. Keyser of San Diego was responsible for the tuck & roll interior. With the doors shut, the upholstery pattern carried the pleated leather panels forward in an unbroken sweep. The body was painted blue once completed.[2]


    Carl traded away his roadster for a 1940 Ford Coupe and some cash to fellow club member Bob Smith. Bob brought the car home, tore it down, made some changes and it landed on the cover of Hot Rod Magazine March 1958. The roadster was Bob's first Prowlers car and he won many awards with it. When the roadster was featured on the cover of Hot Rod Magazine the frame, rear end, and several engine components had been chromed. According to the article, the engine was from a Mercury. The story also says that the front axle was dropped 2 1/2 inches and fit with pre-war Chrysler products upper shock absorber arms. Brakes all around were from a 1948 Ford, and the steering was a reworked 1932 Ford unit. According to the story the body on the roadster was also sectioned 6 inches.[3]


    The car is still around, and is currently owned by John LaBarre, also a Prowlers member.[1] John bought the car from a fourth owner who had nearly destroyed the car. When John got the car it was painted yellow and the doors had been torched out. It was not recognizable, except for the widened cowl, even Carl Burnett didn't recognize it when he saw it. John will restore the roadster to the way it was when Carl owned it.[4]
     
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  5. Barbarian
    Joined: May 5, 2019
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    Barbarian
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    from New Jersey

    So the Bob Smith / Carl Burnett roadster, the history I am reading says it’s a 27 T and all photos seem to reflect that. This one I posted looks clearly low a 28/29 A in that vertical reveal at the cowl. But the pipes looks right. Odd. The more I look a ton of details are different. I was thinking a different variation as it was changed over the years but the A vs T body panels seem too drastic? But it was changed from a rpu to a roadster using a Henry J trunk so I guess weirder things occurred over its life?
     
  6. TCTND
    Joined: Dec 27, 2019
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    Looks like 2 different cars. The first one is a 28-29 A and the dark one in REDO's post is a 26-27 T.
     
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  7. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    The top roadster is a 28-29. Not a coupe with roof cut off. But it does have 27 windshield posts.
     
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  8. Marty Strode
    Joined: Apr 28, 2011
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    Correct, the coupe has a cowl post that extends further out.
     
  9. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
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    65 years ago, I was 13 years old and saw this 27 in a magazine. The Bob Smith 27 T is the car that made me want a roadster. Been wanting one ever since.
     
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