History Any idea what these knock off wire wheels are?

I think the wheels may be early Daytons but they are not dentals, nor pie crust Buffalo. Any ideas what they are? And if Dayton, what is your guess of era.
Front 4” x 16” dia rim, 72 adjustable spokes (48 inside, 24 outside)
Rear 5” x 16” dia rim, 52 spokes (28 inside, 24 outside)
.210” spoke diameter and single butted on the inside to .235”
The wheel hubs have 40 “teeth” that look like truncated pyramids .
The wheel’s hubs are about 7 ½” OD on the inside and 4 ¼” OD on the outside. The mating male drive adapter is 6 ¾” OD
The threaded knock off adapter & cap are 3 ¼” - 12 tpi. The adapter mounting flange has ten holes uses 5 bolts @ 5” BC, so the adapter may be newer.
The car is a 30s dirt track banger and the wires were added during a 1997-2000 restoration. The following 20 years were spent on dirt ovals and road courses on the West coast.

 

Looks like some British ones a pal of mine had?

 

All of the British wires that I have seen are splined

 

Yeah, I just looked at some images and the ones I was thinking of were definatly a fine slpine.

 

Not British. This is actually a much better system than splines.

 

I agree, the torque is "happening" at a much larger radius and the interlocking is more solid. My "new" car is a '58 Lotus 7 with Dayton wheels with Rudge splines. No problems but I've read about the fretting corrosion that can happen. I can't imagine a failure of these if the caps are tight.

 

They look like some modern Low Rider type of wheel maybe 30-40 years old, never seen anything "Old" like that. Wonder if they use left and right handed knock offs?

Bob

 

Your new car being a Lotus 7, how tall are you? I worked on one for a customer and the test drivers were arable, my knee would hit the back of the steering wheel and not let me get my foot on the brake pedal.

 

They're Daytons for sure. Aside from paint, they look the ones I have.

 

Bob, I'm thinking the same thing. They do look like some low rider wheels I've seen in my searching(googling). Yes, the caps are handed.

 

Thanks Brian! And with the 7, I'm 5'10" (shrunken from 5'11 1/2") and do fit, just barely. The footbox is tight as in most early Lotus, but the steering wheel misses by legs.

 

I should mention, the Ford dirt track car is even tighter. I need to take off the steering wheel just to get in and the steering wheel rubs my legs a bit. And only room for gas and clutch with the gearbox between the legs. Brake is external lever as most if not all were on these.

 

Mine are 15"x5". They're NOT lowrider wheels, these look like Jag or Austin Healy wheels, but with better drives as opposed to the splined hubs those have.

 

I restored a prewar sprint car about 20 years ago with the same hubs and wheels, same size even. They were Daytons.

 

Enjenjo,

Awesome, thanks you for the info. !

 

Dayton makes a ton of different style wire wheels. This car from their website.
https://www.daytonwirewheels.com/wire-wheels/cross-lace-knock-off
The radial lace is what we are usually used to seeing on the lowriders.

 

Thanks Robert! I missed that on Dayton's site. Awesome car!
Steve

 

This set is on Fake Book right now. Look like low rider types but I could be wrong.

 

I can’t tell from the photos, what style is the drive? I only know splines.

 

I think those are “rimz “ or “wheelz “ . I’ve a set out back I used for mock-up to have a chassis level.
Mine are 17’s and chrome though, oh and rubber bands for tires. Lol

 

I'm sorry to nr so late' but i just saw your post. Bill told me that he had the hubs which may have been Dayton. He took the hubs to a motorcycle wheel shop in long Beach Ca and had them string spokes to motorcycle rims.

 

Pretty sure Bob is correct- post dental drive Dayton.

 

Thanks guys! Part of the fun is piecing together the history and the creativity, determination of the past owners.