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Hot Rods $100 Chevy engine

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Thepartsbinguy1, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. DDDenny
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    Now you have a reason to tear it apart, that (should) give you the answers to all your questions.
     
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  2. I can get that spark plug out, and that dip stick tube piece removed. Where is SPACE?
     
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  3. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I have not got the plug out. I did end up busting the porcelain out.. I’m betting the tip snapped and fell into the cylinder.. easy out? Maybe grind down a saw blade and try to cut down to the threads? Edit: why are the other plug holes so shallow but not the one that broke? It looks like it has metal surrounding it? Helicoil? 2D63A0EC-F341-4746-A27C-244CBFF6845F.jpeg 29DFAFAD-8AA1-4983-91E7-E21C3024A7A0.jpeg
     
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  4. Thepartsbinguy1
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    No way!! The tab didn’t bust off and fall into the cylinder. I’m gonna grind down a saw blade and start cutting.. 1D504BDC-42D4-4C0B-9EE6-D803221588F9.jpeg
     
  5. Wanderlust
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    Now that’s another mystery to solve, this just keeps getting better and better
     
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  6. lippy
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    I wouldn't want to be the guy who has to pull those head bolts out.:(
     
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  7. Moriarity
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    man if the inside of that engine is even 10% as bad as what the outside looks...where was that stored???
     
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  8. indyjps
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    Just pull the heads. :rolleyes:
    I see reference that it was in a jeep, coulda been submerged completely in mud multiple times.

    Will let you see the valve size and if the seats are sunk.
     
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  9. Fogger
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    You overpaid for that lump!!!
     
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  10. ebfabman
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    Pull the heads and see if there is an X cast on the bottom side at the end of the head. upload_2021-12-16_16-43-3.png
     
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  11. Thepartsbinguy1
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    No way ;) I still got the cub and a lil Indian outlaw out of the deal so it was good.
     
  12. vinfab
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    I have not got the plug out. I did end up busting the porcelain out.. I’m betting the tip snapped and fell into the cylinder.. easy out? Maybe grind down a saw blade and try to cut down to the threads? Edit: why are the other plug holes so shallow but not the one that broke? It looks like it has metal surrounding it? Helicoil?

    My guess is it had a plug anti fouler. Basically, a sleeve to lift the plug out of the combustion chamber to slow oil fouling of the plug.
     
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  13. Thepartsbinguy1
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    The hole for this plug was either made shallower then all seven others or there is an anti fouler like your talking about. I took a minute to do some digging and it is shallow metal chipping away all the way around? A26EE652-73B3-4FF4-A9C8-F6DE39FFA76F.jpeg
     
  14. Tickety Boo
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    I agree with indy, pull the head and see what you got, my S.W.A.G. guess is that it would be cheaper to put on a diffrent set after you check em out, you will also find out what the bores look like. :eek:
     
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  15. Pull the heads (IF you can get the bolts out), degrease it and let it soak in citric acid for a few days. Pressure wash, then you can see what you've got.
     
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  16. Thepartsbinguy1
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    Here’s the bell housing starter actually mounts to the adapter plate? Not the bell housing or block at all. And the carter is getting thrown away snapped the four barrel lever trying to unstick it. And with that I’m pulling the heads. Not sure why everyone is complaining about bolts that were not even really tight? ECA8D3AF-EC47-490D-A6A7-3288A0D7C4C0.jpeg BE20049E-8546-4C7E-984A-72F56E2EFB57.jpeg
     
  17. Thepartsbinguy1
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    Well it’s in a lot better shape then that 283 I cleaned up. At least it is so far.. 32CE40A8-FFBC-49EC-A7D8-B23BA0EF6420.jpeg
     
  18. Tickety Boo
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    I think Squirrel nailed it in post #36, double hump heads
     
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  19. Budget36
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    Looks cleaner than you probably hoped for!

    I see the two holes on the inner side of the heads for the VCs, were they all made like that? I had a set of 461’s once, but never noticed. I assume it’s for staggered or straight VCs? Or is that just the gasket?
     
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  20. Moriarity
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    what you are seeing there is the vc gasket that is stuck to the head, they were made with both sets of holes
     
  21. rusty valley
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    I would cut that broken spark plug out with a O/A torch. The thin threaded portion would blast instantly, and the torch should not do anything to the cast iron. Clean the tip, get your flame hot, do it quick, one blast of the trigger, one cut to the bottom, no cast iron damage.
     
  22. Thepartsbinguy1
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    One of these things is not like the other o_O 757CEFEE-FD68-4217-B4C9-BB24B2FF6739.jpeg
     
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  23. Budget36
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    Valve just looking for a new home;)
     
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  24. gary macdonald
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    202 heads ! Just guessing by the polished chamber
     
  25. Thepartsbinguy1
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    No x
     
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  26. joel
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    Pull the other head and show the bores. I don't think you have scrap yet; check the bores to see if they are standard.
     
  27. Thepartsbinguy1
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    Two of these things are not like the others :mad: ABA0AE79-FD2E-4E6F-9782-91B935E37F8F.jpeg
     
  28. indyjps
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    Ouch, any other damage, are the pistons or chambers beat up? A broken valve in a running engine will normally tear a bunch up, those don't look like they broke while running.
     
  29. gary macdonald
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    You dont need an x to be 202 . Easy to install in any 194 . The reason I thought it was is due to the small distance between the valves and the chamber looks to have the factory smoothed relief cut around the intake valve . Pictures arent going to tell us much but a measure of the valve would .
     
  30. Atwater Mike
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