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Technical Stopping surface rust in storage

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by spillaneswillys, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. I am looking for tips on how to stop a car in bare metal from developing surface rust. I am looking at a car that I cannot right away put in a garage but will need to cover with a tarp. Is there an easy to remove barrier I can put on that will let me work on it later?
     
  2. L. Eckart
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  3. Moriarity
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    It is difficult to give good advice on this because you did not fill out your profile about where you are??? anything you put on it to protect it from moisture, such as an epoxy sealer will not be easy to remove, do you plan on painting it? I have heard of people using oil. but that scares me if you are going to paint it. also tarps trap moisture next to the car so they are bad too. If it was a car I cared about I would buy indoor storage for it
     
  4. Almostdone
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    A lot of people like to use Gibbs lubricant for that (and other things).

    Gibbsbrandlubricant.com
     

  5. Boones
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    Gibbs is what I have used and I have read and been told it wont be a pain when it does come time to paint.. (like other products are). . The firewall on my wagon has been bare for 4 or 5 yrs.. (and the firewall on my 51 was bare for longer than that. (and it is damp in the NW). 616.jpg
     
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  6. wood n one
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    Gibbs oil ! I coated a bare midget frame with Gibbs oil this spring. It is in a room without heat or a/c and hasn't rusted yet.
     
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  7. continentaljohn
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    Gibbs oil is what I have used and with good results and just don’t understand how it doesn’t reacts when painted (fisheyes). I get mine at the gun shop by me
     
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  8. Budget36
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    Have you painted over it yet? I’ve heard you can.
     
  9. DDDenny
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    My 66 Suburban has been in bare metal for near 25 years, used Rust Mort.
    Has stood the test of time in my dry shop and the only problem is the "just gotta touch it" types that leave their DNA causing tarnishing.


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  10. Budget36
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    I used Rust Mort in the 90’s on a PU roof, kept the chalky look for a good 10+ years. Sadly was not stored in a dry climate...although always inside, but now looks like the rest of the cab that was not covered with anything
     
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  12. Frankie47
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    How about Phospho ? Never used it myself but others do.
    EDIT......OSPHO is the correct term.
     
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  13. pirate
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    I think you might mean Ospho which is a diluted phosphoric acid that when applied to steel forms Iron Phosphate that resists rust. You can paint over Iron Phosphate.
     
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  14. Pats55
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  15. pitman
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    '68 Ford, light blue color, had much in the way of blister probs. The metal had a grey coating beneath, never found an ID, on the issue.
     
  16. Frankie47
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    Yes, that is what I meant.....thank you very much!
     
  17. Elcohaulic
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    I would run a dehumidifier in the garage where it is being stored..
     
  18. Grease348
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    I’m in process of stripping and sanding the floor on my ‘61 Corvair. I’ve read here about a product named picklex. What I’ve read it should work until I’m ready to prime and sealer


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  19. Moriarity
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    he is talking about leaving it outside with a tarp on it
     
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  20. 41rodderz
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    He is in Pennsylvania.
     
  21. Jalopy Joker
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    not only have to be concerned with body surface rust, most all metal parts will start rusting too
     
  22. ronzmtrwrx
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    Leaving a car in bare metal outside is a bad idea, we can probably all agree on that. If you just can’t live without the car, here is my suggestion. Buy a gallon of Metal Ready from POR15. Get a spray bottle, fill it up. Starting at the top, spray about a 2’x2’ area and wipe it on with a clean rag, following up with a dry towel that will soak up any excess. Wipe that area dry. Move on until you’ve treated the entire bare metal areas. Buy a roll of 3M self adhesive polyethylene plastic. It’s widely used in the collision industry and I think comes in varying widths. 3’ wide or more. Anyway, cover the entire car as best as you can. One thing you did not mention is if this car is sitting on dirt or concrete. I would not put a tarp on it, as Moriarity said, that would only trap moisture underneath and it looks like you are not in a dry climate area. I would not want to leave it outside more that a month or so. There’s no perfect solution to your problem, short of moving it indoors.
     
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  23. chev34ute
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    The problem comes down to the building itself. I created this 32 Ford hood top last year and it’s been in bare metal ever since. I have kept it inside the house most of the time. If your garage is well insulated you should be able to keep things in bare metal for years. 4D09725A-15CB-4D02-B5C8-8AE20077AD76.jpeg
     
  24. Moriarity
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    Again, he is talking about keeping it OUTSIDE
     
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  25. blowby
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    Is Gibbs in a spray can, like for wire wheels?
     
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  26. 1952henry
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    Another thought is Fluid Film. It comes in a spray can. I use it in the wheel wells of my pickup during the winter. It clings well. Not sure it would be fun to clean up when you are ready to work on the car. I guess that is what wax and grease remover is for.
     
  27. Flathead Dave
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    GIBBS OIL. "I use that shit on everything"
    Or seal it.
     
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  28. Flathead Dave
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    Yes, it is.
     
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  29. atomickustom
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    Any reason why you can't give it a coat of paint? Even if you strip it off later it will protect better than anything else.
     
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  30. clem
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    ^^^^^^ best suggestion thus far, by my way of thinking, failing that....
    Gibbs brand lubricant.
    you can paint over it with most paint except PA 10 from epiglass.

    fascinating to note how many people can’t read the 2&1/2 lines of the original post........
     
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