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Hot Rods 2x4 carb spacing

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Roothawg, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. 2OLD2FAST
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    Looks like useless and overpriced phony shit ...
     
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  2. I've bought multiple vacuum secondary Holley 450 carbs... Maybe they don't offer that version anymore? Probably half of the used ones I've bought were Ford service replacements. You needed to check jetting as many were jetted for a specific application, but that was generally the only difference. A few have had oddball fuel inlets, but that's easily fixed with a float bowl change.
     
  3. carbking
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    Another option that would bolt directly to the intake with no adapters needed would be the Stromberg type 4A carbs used on the 1952~1954 Buick.

    And while I really like MOST Carters, the Strombergs (opinion) are the very best of the early 4-barrels. Buick quit using them because they cost more than the Carters and Rochesters, not because of issues (well, other than financial issues).

    They are also "H.A.M.B. friendly" ;)

    Jon.
     
  4. Roothawg
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    Jon,
    How hard are these to come by? Also, how hard are they to convert to 2x4? Thanks for your input. After a quick Google, I see rebuilts with the asking price of $900. I realize the internet is not a great reflection of reality, but I wonder if these are hens teeth?
     
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  5. 2OLD2FAST
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    Care to share "list" numbers so a person would know what to look for ?
     
  6. carbking
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    Well, they are not as common as Holleys, or e-clones; but they are not overly scarce. I am down to only a few, but have been selling them for 40 years without replenishing the inventory.

    Each year used a different number:

    1952: 7-92
    1953: 7-94
    1954: 7-98

    Doesn't really matter which you choose, but best results if both are from the same year.

    While you won't find parts at your FLAPS, virtually everything is available mail order.

    $900. for a professionally restored (recolored, replated, etc.) and fully guaranteed unit is not out of line, but maybe a bit high for a rebuilt without the cosmetics and/or warranty. If you want to do your own rebuilding, look for cores that have a missing or broken starter switch, as the switch is 10~15 percent of the price; and you won't need it.

    As far as conversion to duals? Not really an issue. And the Buick fuel curve is very close to that of a Cadillac, so calibration will probably be easier (other than mail order on parts) than a new A/M Holley or e-clone that is calibrated for a small block Chevy.

    Jon
     
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  7. egads
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    So your saying I should take these off?

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  8. And if they don't fit turn them sideways.....
     
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  9. squirrel
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    I'm not you...if they work for you, great, leave them on. I'd use 4bbls.
     
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  10. I ran dual 600cfm Carters on a very mild 350 chevy and had absolutely no problems with driveability, they really only open up for the amount of air the engine pulls over the secondaries to open them. Hooking them up for one to one linkage is very simple too, if you decide on the 500 cfm Carters I don't think you'll have any issues.
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  11. Roothawg
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    Thanks Jon,
    I am intrigued with this idea. I need to do some research.
     
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  12. https://altoona.craigslist.org/pts/d/johnstown-holley-cfm-tunnel-ram-dual/7156602368.html
     
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  13. mgtstumpy
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    465s on my FE
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  14. Roothawg
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    What linkage did you use?
     
  15. Mike VV
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    That FE setup above is pretty tight, but how about this ?

    DSC00585m.jpg

    A Chevrolet, aftermarket manifold (Renegade) modified to bolt onto a Studebaker engine.
    The lower part of the picture is the front, where the thermostat housing used be, along with the water crossover. The hole on the back is where the EGR port used to be.
    With the carburetors at the engine angle of 8°, the front carburetors base plate ear, is about .03" from the lower bowl screw of the rear carburetor.

    Mike
     
  16. I'm running straight linkage on it so just made a rod with threaded ends and put aircraft rod ends on it. Haven't tried progressive linkage on this engine; I know the dual quads on the '331 in my roadster worked a lot better with straight linkage.
     
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