The lower one looks as if it came off of a boat as there is no horn ring and it appears pretty small.
I thought was a possibility, although some of the wheels that seen had a small horn button in the center. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Pretty sure the horn ring one is late 48-early 49 Kaiser. I saw this posted elsewhere and answered the same.
I looked at a few pictures online and you are correct, thank you. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app