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Projects Seagrave 531 V12 Special BuiLd Up in Brazil

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Drmalacarne, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. s55mercury66
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    from SW Wyoming

    There was one of these in a short nosed tractor for the Evanston, Wyoming ladder truck that I found in a junkyard 4 years ago. Low mileage, like a lot of fire equipment, but it had been sitting outside for a while, and looked like it. They got it running, and sold it to someone for 5k. The engine was more or less mid-mounted in that one. Cool project, Doctor, thanks for sharing.
     
  2. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

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  3. My memory is returning!
    In the early '80s a friend asked me if I wanted to buy
    an old fire engine, early '50s.. I turned it down, "too many projects"
    I sold it for him to a Volunteer fire company.
    I just rememberd it had a Pierce Arrow V12 flathead.
    Maybe another source for distributor parts etc.
     
  4. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    Meanwhile we made a ultra beefy engine chassis transverse support and inner lateral reinforcements to bolt to the 1926 Buick chassis.


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  5. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

  6. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

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  7. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

  8. Speed~On
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    This thread is awesome!! Thanks for sharing all these photos.
     
  9. Rickybop
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    Looks like the cylinders are spread pretty far apart. Why is that, D?

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  10. tubman
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    When you say "spread apart", do you mean the angle between the cylinders or the distance between bore centers?
     
  11. Rickybop
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    How ya doin', t.
    I was referring to the distance between bore centers and what looks to be a fair amount of material or lots of room for coolant between the cylinders.

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  12. PackardV8
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    [​IMG]

    An American Lafrance we built last year.

    jack vines
     
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  13. 52HardTop
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    This is, a very cool thread. Something just a little different yet appropriate to the HAMB. I'm going to watch this one for sure.
     
  14. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    The 1926 Buick front axle was revised and received new bushes.
    We made new front springs and put everything together again.


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    Drmalacarne

  16. Deuces
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    Deuces

    It's a red x picture..... :(
     
  17. AmishMike
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    love the thread great build following closely. Bur, how about a couple words on blue & white custom in back of couple pics. looks like rear of custom 52/3 ford?
     
  18. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

  19. AmishMike
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    wild, thanks for the link. Loved Brazil when visited by the way.
     
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  20. flynbrian48
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    This is the kind of nonsense I just love. Great stuff here.
     
  21. WC Durant
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    Agreed. This is nonsense of the best variety. The chassis looks spectacular.
     
  22. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    Heads were cleaned and inspected.
    Then they were re surfaced.



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  23. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

  24. Ziggster
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    Great work. Great attitude. We make new bearings. We make new springs. We make new engine mount. Lol.
    Looking forward to the build. Would have liked to have seen some pics of the engine in the Monarca. Love the interior of that car. Very cool design outside as well. Keep up the great work.
     
  25. s55mercury66
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    Modern heart-shaped chambers, with strategically placed offset spark plugs, and a rough surface to promote swirl ;) What is the operating rpm range of one of these monsters?
     
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  26. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    215 bhp @ 3600 rpm
    422 ft.lbs. Torque


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  27. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    We decided to maintain all the mechanical brakes of the 1926 Buick chassis.
    So we made all new bushes and fittings for the system.
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  28. Drmalacarne
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    Drmalacarne

    The special front cross member which serves as the front engine support was cross drilled to fit the chassis with special steel bolts.
    8427ac3c-c03e-4e4a-ab09-d463860a8854.jpg


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  29. Boneyard51
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    Our standard operating procedure was to make the run on both ignition systems. But check the truck at 8 am, by switching to each system at a time to make sure both systems were operating properly. Not sure if it was recommended by Mack or not, but it’s what we did successfully, since 1956.




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  30. 1-SHOT
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    from Denton

    Nice build, I see a lot of talent and craftsmanship in this build. I am following your build.
    There is no 1(800) HOT-RODS in this build all talent. Frank
     

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