Any knowledgeable fellows have any info, or an actual example, of the type of pre-War electric fuel pump as used on Bob Stack's roadster circa 1938-41? Stack ran a pair of these while running Muroc, as well as on the street. They might be fuel pump-filter combo. Appearances would first suggest early Carter...as they resemble the P205-16 series, but they are not. Known pre-1945 electric fuel pump makers that I'm aware of (some being aircraft auxiliary pumps used before the War on civilian aircraft) include: Bendix-Skinner, Mallory, Holley, Thompson, etc. Any information would be very much appreciated. Thank You.
I was looking at a pump similar to that today !!! I put it back in my trailer , I will grab it again tomorrow and post some pictures and any written info on it
Thanks for the effort, wood remover. The ones I'm referring to are definitely not the 500 series Autopulse pumps as you show. Although there is a resemblance. The ones Stack used on his roadster appear to be very early Carters, because of four bolt flange securing the dome. I am not dismissing that they could be very early pre-War Autopulse as well, I have never seen an example. Ireland & Matthews Mfg Co out of Detroit sold dual electric Autopulse pumps for use in speedboats. Also I have been told that Studebaker and Peerless, as well as Duesenberg of course, used electric fuel pumps in the late 1920's. $20 to the first man who can correctly identify these pumps that Stack used!
Correctly ID'd, RidingMechanic! Give that man a cigar (please PM me with your PayPal info for the reward). This is an example of why the H.A.M.B. is a valuable resource for the history, preservation, general and specialized knowledge, and camaraderie, among those of us who find this hobby so fascinating. Thank You! Further rewards: Anybody have a pair of these for sale?
Just to clarify : Peerless never ever used an electric fuel pump. My dad had 13 Peerless's and they were either vacuum tank type or mechanical on the camshaft.
Thanks David - No fee needed, but if you feel so inclined, please make a donation to a HAMB friendly charity instead. Are you building a copy of the Stack roadster?
egads...Thanks for the Peerless info...The AACA forum had the Big Peerless using elec. pumps...Have to be careful what one reads on there. RidingMechanic!...Yes I will make a donation in your name...Can you tell me the source of the model 699 pump images?...Anybody you know have any?...No, I'm not building a copy... I have the actual roadster. Initially I had the engine and drivetrain, mostly complete...I now have the body and chassis... again, for the most part intact and I am making every effort possible to make sure the project is as it should be. I had numerous telephone conversations with Mr. Stack before his passing on the subject of his "A Model Ford gow job" as he referred to it...It was very impressive the details and stories he could recall. He had many exotic and high-performance automobiles through the years...You could tell that this little Ford roadster held a special place in his memories.
OK, RidingMechanic, I just made the donation to Billy Crewl of Hemet CA, known as Hellmet on the H.A.M.B. I let them know in comment that it was by your special request. Others interested in this worthy cause, please do so: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...wife-with-small-children-please-help.1133993/ https://www.gofundme.com/crewl-family-fund
Robert Roof listed Autopulse fuel pumps in his sales flyer Most speed equipment flyers & catalogs don't have dates, but I'm guessing this one is pre WWII since it featured OHV heads for Four Bangers & V8-60 parts. Bob
Are you doing a build thread? Would really be interested in seeing some of the details on this car. I believe this was built in 38 with filled wheel wells. I find prewar stuff interesting.
Thanks Bob...I have seen that early Robt. Roof stuff...very interesting. 62pan...Yes... when I clear the decks on my current ongoing project I will probably be doing a build thread on this. The Stewart Warner pumps are the last needed of the components to get going on it... I have not seen these offered for sale anywhere or in any condition...(big reward and unending gratitude to whomever finds these)However I did do the motor and trans as well as the rear-end (Columbia) so we have a good start. The Roadster was built in 1938. Joe Mozzetti, Ed Winfield, Al Jepson, all had a hand in it's construction...Stack also pitched in.
Thanks David, very kind of you! The source was "Motorboating" Jan,. 1937 Link - https://books.google.com/books?id=W...v=onepage&q=stewart warner 699-a pump&f=false
There have to be a few old boat shops or salvage yards on the east coast that still have parts like this laying around. Probably on an attic shelf that no one's looked at for decades. Getting them working again will be another challenge!
As luck would have it, a week ago I did contact a vintage wooden speed boat restoration shop in Lake Tahoe, CA, "Sierra Boat Co.", http://sierraboat.com/ Carl, the parts/store manager, thought he'd seen these type of pumps before, and in fact may have one sitting on a shelf. A few days later he got back with me saying he did not find one...he found a pair! Exactly filling the bill. He sent them right over to me. In an uncanny bit of synchronicity, Carl told me that he had been involved with the restoration of one of Robert Stack's vintage wooden boats some thirty years earlier, a 1947 Chris-Craft Racing Runabout. Stack had an estate just down the road from the shop, and got to know Stack and his brother Jim pretty well. Thank You Very Much, Carl!
Couldn't have worked out any better for you! A very interesting project you have. Please make a build thread.
Sure would enjoy seeing pictures, of any of your endeavors, thus far, of this iconic Cragar OHV powred roadster. Hope all is well, with you.
First off, this is an intensely exciting project and I hope to follow it as it comes together. I would be terribly interested to know how he pronounced "gow." I've always rhymed it with "cow" but a lot of guys insist it's said the same as "go."