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Technical Whats the trick to removing the bearing race on early for hub?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rusty rocket, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. rusty rocket
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    I need to replace the roller bearing and seals on my 39 Ford wide five hubs. Whats the trick on removing the race inside the hub? I have soaked with pb blaster gave the hub a slight heat with my torch. Tapped the out side and tried a small prybar, not moving. IMG_3311.JPG
     
  2. Run a couple small weld beads on the surface. It should shrink up and fall out.
     
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  3. alchemy
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    The rear hub is the race. There is no removable race.
     
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  4. rusty rocket
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    I dont think so. Theres a race in there. Look at the picture again.
     

  5. alchemy
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    Have you purchased a new one to replace it yet?
     
  6. Correct.

    All your seeing is the shoulder that stops the hub grease seal stop and the snap ring grove. You can't change the Bearing surface in the Hub.
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  7. big duece
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    91065460_L1600_e04c8020-a7b8-4cbd-addb-545d0db4f0ce.jpg Whether it's intended or not for the consumer to replace a race in the rear hub of a wide 5 or '40 style hub is a mystery to me. But, those drums and hubs are cast iron. Hard to believe that those rollers can ride against cast iron and last. I would assume there is a hardened (rockwell 60) race pressed in, with no intentions of being serviced. Wish I had a damaged one here to cut in half... even the '40 style hub from speedy bill looks as if there is a race installed.
     
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  11. alchemy
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    I concede that the cast iron hub itself does have another steel insert installed into it by Ford that is a race. But it is not removeable by us to replace. I've never seen any regular style pound out pound in replacements for sale.
     
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  12. I believe that Mac's has a "repair" bearing with a smaller diameter race that presses in and the roller bearing is a smaller OD with the correct ID for the axle. No machining required.
     
  13. big duece
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    It's in post #7
     

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