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Technical Model a gas tank with a gauge overlay

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 48fordnut, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. 48fordnut
    Joined: Nov 4, 2005
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    I want to use my gas tank on the a roadster with a overlay over it for a speedo and 4 gauges. Any pics or recommendations?
    Thanks,
    jim
     
  2. redoxide
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    do you want to retain the cowl tank for fuel supply or are you forfeiting the cowl tank ? Some of the modern gauges are a wee bit to deep to fit in an overpanel. Older gauges can be shorter and you can fit a period auxiliary gauge panel.. If your not using the cowl as a gas tank you can claim all of the space in there for wires and gauge location..

    I made up a panel that follows the profile of a 32 dash. but still required the cowl tank to be sacrificed for space ..

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  3. 48fordnut
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    Thanks Red, I am using the gas tank. I guess I'll have to make a cardboard panel and fit the gauges and see what happens. I won't be using a tach. ,but like your panel
     
  4. Here's an option I've always liked. You can spin off this general idea many directions. Mounting a 40 dash has been done many different ways over the years. What a job like that does do is move the face of the dash forward. This will leave plenty room for gauges without getting into the stock tank.
    40 dash in Model A.jpg
    Here's a 36 Dash in my 30 Roadster. I sunk it to the rear so I could raise the steering column and mount it stock to the dash. My Roadster is also channeled so raising the column was necessary so I could physically be in the Car.
    20151023_094207.jpg The other thing I like is getting a Glove Box in the deal. Your only limited my your Imagination.
    The Wizzard
     
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  5. cederholm
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    That dash is beautiful!

    ~ Carl

     
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  6. Blues4U
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    The original tank is still in my A, with a wood dash panel in front (back 20150903_181817.jpg ?) of it and a small gauge panel, but no speedo. I'm not sure how deep a speedo is and whether there is room for one.
     
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  7. 48fordnut
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    That work on both of yours is great.The 40 is awesome. Thanks for sharing that. The wooden back plate to space it out is also a good idea. That may be the way I go. The speed o is deep almost 4''.
     
  8. Atwater Mike
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    Ditto on the '40...Never would have thought about the convex shape actually making room for gauges betwixt 'A' tank and '40 cosmetics!
     
  9. Cliff Ramsdell
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    Jim,
    Made this for the same reason, went back to the stock tank. Tach in the middle and speedometer mounted on the column. I’m happy and it works.

    I made the dash panel and the gauge panel and was fully committed when I spotted the 40 ford and shoebox ideas kicking around.

    Cliff Ramsdell

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  10. sloppy jalopies
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    pissed n,
    that is a '37 car dash... '36 only has 1 big hole...
    pic of later dashes to fit in a '30 cowl... DSCN2514.JPG DSCN2541.JPG View attachment 4057733 DSCN2909.JPG DSCN2642 (2).JPG DSCN2756.JPG DSCN2840.JPG DSCN2849.JPG DSCN2880.JPG
     
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  11. Hot Rod Nut
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    I always use the Model A gas tank, works great, and I use a 32 fiberglass Dash from Speedway, and a set of 5 0r 6 gauges, put the speedometer, and tack in the center, Cut a hole to see the stock fuel gauge and a little light above it ,works great.
     

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  12. scrap metal 48
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    Here's the "gas stick" hanging on the door I used in one of my A's with the stock tank...**clic pic** 100_0242.JPG
     
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  13. dmdeaton
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    I am not using a speedo…….yet. Amp gauge is not hooked up. Just there for looks. I have a idiot light for the alt. I am trying to keep bare essentials on mine. Oil pressure and fuel pressure gauges are in engine compartment. I have the speedo app on the cell phone for now.



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  14. bangerbob
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    My dash, tank is used. 20181009_055600.jpg

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  15. sloppy jalopies
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    years ago I enlarged the holes for thin gauges... ran the gauges that I didn't have room for in the right side kick panel...
     
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  16. dmdeaton
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  17. For my overlay, just the bezel and the glass from a S/W gauge was used over the existing Model A gas gauge. Existing gauge was untouched.
     
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  18. Blues4U
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    from So Cal

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  19. cederholm
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    Saving this thread for later! ;)
     
  20. Thanks for correcting me sloppy jalopies. That was a Type-O and I know better to try to fool anyone here on the H.A.M.B. That will teach me to proof read everything from now on before hitting Post. I actually chose a 37 (note correct year this time) for two reasons. First was Flat Head powered and as I may have done it when I was Younger, from my point of view. Second is that 30+ years ago I helped a close Friend (also a H.A.M.B. member) build his 37 Ford 2d sedan. He still drives it and I like the look from inside it going down the road. This brings good memories of my Buddy along with me when I drive it (if I ever get it done). So yes I knew it was a 37 dash and now you all know the rest of the story as would have been said by Paul Harvey. (I am not Paul Harvey)
    The Wizzard
     
  21. I cut the dash out of an extra Model A tank. Mounted it to hang from the windshield valance. Made a lower dash for switches and radio and to secure the lower part of the dash to the running light support bracket.
    Used a repro Model A gauge panel with a second gas site (original site is in the original dash behind). Wired a small light that worked with dash lights to help see the gas level. Also glued a jeweler's lupe to back of new gas sight to magnify.
    Added the repro Aristocrat panel over the stock panel to give extra gauge positions. You can see stock style Model A speedo with SW mechanical gauges.
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  22. So far I like your approach with the Aristocrat panel the best. Not wanting to go that far I would use a stock cluster and gauge set and add two additional gauges in a mount around the steering column as in the pictures (available from Model A suppliers like Bratton's). Another option would be to put the extra gauges in the passenger side kick panel .

    Charlie Stephens

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  23. 48fordnut
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    Boy if you can't come up with something from this you are hurting.
    Thanks all.

    jim
     
  24. sloppy jalopies
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    i have a rare and available A Ford gas gauge magnifying lens... only ever seen two of 'em...
     
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  25. 48fordnut
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    Cliff I don't have enough time left to use a full tank.Lol.
    I'll bet that is rare.
     
  26. bangerbob
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    My poor boy hotrod 20180314_171532.jpg 20170118_073600.jpg

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  27. 48fordnut
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    I remember the stickers in the 50s. good pic.
     
  28. Here is my dash as mentioned earlier. It is out of car as I am redoing interior. Notice fuel gauge site glass above the Tach. dash.jpg
     
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