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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Loudbang -great round of photos!
    You questioned one photo re: W-30 and the scoops. It looks like the turn signals are moved in toward the center of the bumper and the scoops are beside them.
     
  2. The Rat Patrol
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    Hi there - I'd really appreciate some help with my project.

    I've checked a lot of sources, but cant seem to find out who Bill Patterson beat in A/SA class in the 61 Winternationals?

    I know he drove a 60 Chevy Impala....

    Pretty sure this is the car...[​IMG]
     
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  3. Baron
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    Been an Oldsmobile fan for a while now. Motors are torque monsters 45920_10200359554619718_2094775190_n.jpg 3434162612_ac58640779_o.jpg Brainbeau Olds.jpg IMG_5937_zps6fd98a2f.jpg .
     
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  4. WerbyFord
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    Rat Patrol,
    There is a related thread on ClassRacer - link below.
    Post #8 has a scan of the 1970 Indy results, lists Winner and Runner Up (R/U).
    Sounds like you need something similar but from 1961 Winternats.
    I sure don't have it but maybe somebody does - it would help my effort too but that kind of detail is really hit&miss - folks are kind enough to post a few scans here & there, comes in a scrap at a time.

    http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=62510

    http://classracer.com/classforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=34824&d=1465775250
     
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  5. The Rat Patrol
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    Cheers mate, I'll check it out.

    I agree also...the info is very sketchy...its a credit to guys like Larry Davis that they've accumulated as much as they have.

    I am kinda surprised though,...that the NHRA hasn't set up a proper resource library for historical data...after all, they are the true custodians.
     
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  6. Mikeszcz
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  7. slowmotion
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    School me guys. I vividly remember sitting in study hall circa '68, and ogiling an add (in Motor Trend maybe) for the new '68 442s with the available 'under the bumper' air intakes (full frontal shot :eek:). I thought it was new for '68. Was this available option on the 66-67 models? Don't recall ever seeing any.

    Edit damn it:
    A quick Google search set me straight.
     
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  8. Baron
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  9. loudbang
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    Whew don't go away for a couple days.... come back to 4 pages of subscribed threads to catch up on.:eek:

    Anyway have a few left over from last time for today then I should be back to normal LOL.

    Bob Glidden B/S Ford


    Bob glidden BS Ford.JPG


    Arlen Vanke "Maximum Performance" Dodge Convertible


    Arlen Vanke Maximum Performance Dodge Convertable.JPG


    B/S GTO "Tin Indian III" Bill Knafel Pontiac


    BS GTO Tin Indian III Bill Knafel Pontiac.JPG



    Cal Method 1961 Chevy wagon T/SA


    Cal Method 1961 Chevy wagon TSA.JPG


    The ever popular G/SA "Behemom" wagon. Anybody know if the name was a spoof on one of their moms?


    GSA Behemom wagon.JPG


    G/SA "Levithan"


    GSA Levithan.JPG



    "It's Dynomite" E/SA Plymouth


    It\'s Dynomite ESA Plymouth.JPG



    N/S 1959 Chevy


    NS 1959 Chevy.JPG
     
  10. tmwracing
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  11. lippy
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    Loudbang, I believe the G/SA wagon was "Behemoth" Lippy
     
  12. dorf
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    anyone have anything on bob and donna Schrader from lordstown oh . won the nats 61 or 62 I believe also believe it was g/s .
     
  13. Baron
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    Maybe somebody did a little Photoshop on this pic ?
    GSA Behemom wagon.JPG
     
  14. lippy
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    LOL I don't think so, look at it for a bit. Its like one of those brain teasers. Its not an M its a T and an H. Wagons are big, hence a behemoth. See the tops of the letters? Lippy
     
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  15. Baron
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    I do see the letter in the background. Now take a look at these two pictures .
    behemo11.jpg Behemoth 12.jpg
     
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  16. lippy
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    Cool wagon nonetheless. Takes a lot of grunt to move that wagon. BTW wish I had my 59 vette back, Love your car. Lippy
     
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  17. loudbang
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    That is how I remembered it then looked closer and it was different. A conundrum indeed.
     
  18. tommyd
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  20. WerbyFord
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    6009nhra-dtw-6012hr.jpg

    1960 NHRA Nationals results from Detroit Dragway
    From Dec 60 Hot Rod


    Here are My guesses as to the model and engine. I need this detail to Gonkulate (compute) each car and get a handle on the engine and the rest of the timeslip - let alone the historical interest. I do search for pictures of the cars, right down to looking for rear door handle with a magnifying glass.

    Guesses, so comments welcome!!!

    S/S 60 Cat 389/363hp Red Car
    A/S 57 Sunliner 312/300 really guessing on the weight
    C/S 60 Valiant 170/148hp (a six-cyl in C/S just sounds wrong!!)
    D/S 53 Olds Super 88 2d sedan 303/165
    E/S 51 Studebaker State Sedan 232/120
    F/S 37 Cadillac Fleetwood Spt Cp 346/135

    S/SA 60 Plymouth Belvedere HT Sonoramic (longram) 383/330
    A/SA 60 Bonneville Vista Sdn HT 389/318
    B/SA 57 Chev 210 2d sedan 283/220
    D/SA 53 Olds Super 88 2d sedan 303/165
    E/SA 51 Lincoln Cpe 337/154
     
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  21. WerbyFord
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    6102nhra-pom-6105hr.jpg

    1961 winternationals results
    from May 61 Hot Rod

    once again these are my GUESSES as to the model & engine, comments & memories appreciated for accuracy!

    S/S 61 Impala HT 409/360
    A/S 60 Belair HT 348/335
    B/S 57 Chev 210 2d 283/283
    D/S 60 Bonneville Vista Sedan HT 389/318 “brake light?”
    E/S 61 Belair 2d sdn 348/250
    F/S 57 Chev 210 4d HT 283/220
    H/S 55 Chev 210 sdn 265/180
    I/S 55 Chev 150 sdn 2d6p 265/162
    J/S 53 Olds Super 88 2d sedan 303/165
    K/S 50 Olds Dlx Club Cp 303/135

    C/SA 60 Pont Ventura HT 389/333
    D/SA 60 Plymouth Deluxe Wagon 4d6p 361/310
    F/SA 57 Chev 210 2ds 283/220
    G/SA 60 Dodge Pioneer HT 318/230
     
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  22. dorf
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    thanks for the info ,I will have to get more information .
     
  23. Grandadeo
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    Hey Chevy Sedan Delivery guys. I have had a hydramatic with Chevy bell housing in the garage for 30 some years now. Was said to be in a Willys coupe gasser at one time. Hung onto it cause I new it was scarce and might do an Austin gasser some day. (Dreamer) That ain't ever going to happen so I'm trying to figure a reasonable price and if anyone has any interest in it. Trans condition is unknown and I don't have a starter with it. I also have a '55 Olds hydramatic still attached to a 324 Olds V8, that was in a Willys sedan that I'm not going to use. That engine is getting hooked up to a T10 4 speed. I guess I'm looking for info on the Chevy setup as much as I'm looking for a new home for them. Thanks

    Lee
     
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  24. KickinAsphalt
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    IF it is the correct Hydro for the sedan delivery let me know what you come up with for a price. I have friends down that way picking up cars all the time.
     
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  25. Grandadeo
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    So do we know what the identifiers are for a correct Sedan Delivery hydramatic setup?

    Lee
     
  26. 56sedandelivery
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  27. 56sedandelivery
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    Sedan Deliveries were built, titled, and licensed as "trucks"; in fact they were't even in the passenger car brochures, just the truck brochures. Trucks could be ordered with the "optional" Hydramatic transmission. NHRA allowed the Sedan Delivery "trucks" to run the Hydramatic (a loophole as they say), even though they were never produced with them; at least they allowed it for a while, ending it in 71 I believe. Truck Hydro's were flat pans, and finding all the correct/complete parts made the swap easier; it still involved some minor transmission mount, transmission tunnel, and firewall mods. A couple of companies made swap mounts that were better than "adapting" the stock cushion mounts (there were some minor differences in the angle they bolted to the car VS truck bell-housings). Some transmission mount frame horns actually go torn torn away from the frame due to the WEIGHT of the transmission, and the mismatch in the mount angles. Most of the Junior Stock Class racers with Sedan Deliveries and Hydro's, made the transmission tunnel removable for easier maintenance (such as adjusting the bands), and making for more room. Finding all the "right" parts these days is difficult, especially the Hydro only application starter motor, and the slip yoke. The throttle pressure linkage is also a piece that's hard to find, and critical for operation and longevity of a Hydro. I think that's what he actually means by "correct" Hydro. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  28. KickinAsphalt
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    Yes that's what I meant lol
    If you could pop a pic up that would help
     
  29. tommyd
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    Pratt-Burkitt and Frank Behemouth. 1970 stock world champs I think.
     
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  30. Grandadeo
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    KickinA, I'll do my best to pull it out tomorrow, snap a few pics, and get any serial/part numbers off it I can find.

    Lee
     

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