Register now to get rid of these ads!

The Speedway Special

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by the-rodster, Jan 25, 2006.

  1. SUHRsc
    Joined: Sep 27, 2005
    Posts: 5,093

    SUHRsc
    Member

    when i first saw this car in the magazine i was a bit perterbed because its somewhat the idea of what i want to try to incorperate into the car i am building right now.
    but the more i stared at this the more i think its a bit too much that it draws from the whole. the saying "cant see the forest for the tree's" seems fitting for this car

    the workmanship and detail are top notch and its very much resembling a miller indy car all mized up with a 32 ford. but i think that thats why theres miller's and theres 32's you can share ideas and style but you dont cross breed them like this.

    overall i like it though. id much rather spend my time looking at a car like this then a smoothed over monochromatic sitting on the ground plastic blob of a 32 roadster

    heres my design for my car
    i hope it comes out half as nice
    zach
     

    Attached Files:

  2. retroridesbyrich
    Joined: Dec 2, 2004
    Posts: 1,872

    retroridesbyrich
    Member
    from Central NC

    What he said.
     
  3. Broman
    Joined: Jan 31, 2002
    Posts: 1,487

    Broman
    Member
    from an Island

    It may have been built in the image of some fictitious Indy mechanic, but it still doesn't sit right or come together well.

    The rings around the exhaust are ok but too much when coupled with the *ick* bumper/tailight thingy, and then there are the tail light rings and the plate bracket - which would also be ok if not for all of the other shit back there...like that mess under the bumper and plate bracket. I can see the trunk hold downs as ok, maybe - but there are so many other ways to hold down a trunk - and those JEEP clips don't do anything for the "racey" feel you'd think that they are going for.

    IMO - the pinstripe (on this car) don't add anything...

    The engine compartment is amazing....

    The undercarriage is probably astonishing...

    The grill and the side steering, etc. all work for me - I dig them...

    The headlights...i could be sold on them if the pinstripes and such are gone (from the side of the car as well).

    The interior is a little more than the eye can understand design wise - and IMO takes ZERO from and indy-car design, with the exception of the petals and the counsil abortion. The door panels, again - with all the other stuff is too much, alone maybe kinda cool. As far as the seat brackets and such - see above. If the wheel came from an MG it should be put back....And the interior color looks like vomit held against a jewel....


    Stand back and look at the car - pretty nice, but missing something...stance? wrong wheels? Tires? They DO say the wheels make the car....these do nothing for me - but wheels are universally based on opinion anyways....

    Fantastic details on a car that none of us could build. Maybe the automotive equivalent of a Salvador Dali. Lots of great craftsmanship and the skill level of a master, with the subject matter you can ALMOST understand, but not quite, and worth more than any ten paintings we'll ever do no matter what it looks like on the wall.......
     
  4. Yo Baby
    Joined: Jul 11, 2004
    Posts: 2,811

    Yo Baby
    Member

    I'm impressed.I don't really care that much for billet,but I do appreciate good craftsmanship:D ,and this car is crafty:cool: .
     
  5. 3wLarry
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 12,804

    3wLarry
    Member Emeritus
    from Owasso, Ok

    Wow...amazin' details...too many. Glad I read this. Was gonna try a little of that on the coupe, but I think I'll tone down some of the ideas now.
     
  6. jaybee
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 268

    jaybee
    Member

    I like the Tim Allen car better, but IMO this captures the flavor Moal was after...keeping in mind it was never meant to be a faithful recreation of a historical car. If I had a bottomless well of money Steve Moal has been at the top of my list to build a car from scratch ever since the Tim Allen roadster was unveiled. Maybe I'd hire Boyd to wax it...but I'd have to think about that.
     
  7. beatnik
    Joined: Nov 8, 2002
    Posts: 2,209

    beatnik
    Member

    I love it, but agree that there's way too much going on. They made it too complicated, but the workmaship is great and there a lot of great ideas.

    I havent seen any finished photos but they were also working on 5 Window Coupe
     

    Attached Files:

  8. kropduster
    Joined: Oct 19, 2005
    Posts: 681

    kropduster
    Member


    YOU SAID IT.
     
  9. Nightfire
    Joined: May 3, 2005
    Posts: 101

    Nightfire
    Member
    from Canada

  10. McKee
    Joined: Jul 22, 2005
    Posts: 1,193

    McKee

    Moal went waaaay overboard on this one,.....what could have been a good car turned out like a circus wagon,....Moal's earlier efforts were much better ie: The California V8 Special and Tim Allen"s Licorice.

    Here's the other car that Moal built for the same guy!
     

    Attached Files:

  11. AZAV8
    Joined: May 3, 2005
    Posts: 997

    AZAV8
    Member
    from Tucson, AZ

    Two words: Over Done.

    There is an old engineering design principle called K.I.S.S. where the engineer looks into the mirror and says to image he sees; Keep It Simple, Stupid!

    I appreciate the work and thought that went into this car; HOWEVER, there is TOO much done on this car. Yes, they may have been emulating the 1930's cars where there was a lot of "gingerbread", but this car goes beyond even that emulation. Less would have made this car even better.

    Mom always told me to always say something good. I like the color.
     
  12. derelict
    Joined: Nov 28, 2001
    Posts: 490

    derelict
    Member

    Great workmanship but too many geegaws. The guy just didn't know when to quit. That front end is waay over the top. It seems like his builds keep getting busier. I wish he'd build a car for me though.
     
  13. You are kinda thick brained. Speedway as in INDY. Not Speedway Motors, the only thing Speedy Bills company has in common with this car is the name.
     
  14. InDaShop
    Joined: Aug 15, 2004
    Posts: 2,796

    InDaShop
    Member
    from Houston

    Friction between all the details. TOO Busy!

    He needs to take about half the doodads off this car and build another car! Then he'd have two kick ass cars. Not one Overdone one.

    I can't help but wonder though would it make it all better if it were BLACK?
     
  15. Gator
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,016

    Gator
    Member

    Ehh, it's kind of 'all over the place' as far as the styling and stuff goes. Doesn't really peg any one genre.
     
  16. 61bone
    Joined: Feb 12, 2005
    Posts: 890

    61bone
    Member

    nice but not for me. With all the detail, how come it shows 30" of boost and no fuel pressure?:)
     
  17. Too Damn Much Clutter For Me.....but When Each Piece Of Clutter Is Taken Individually...they Are Works Of Frikkin' Art, Man. Just Has A Lot Of Too Much Of A Good Thing For My Tastes, But Then...i Like Stuff With No Salt....(oh,wait.....that Does Not Include Bonneville!)
     
  18. hillbillyhell
    Joined: Feb 9, 2005
    Posts: 934

    hillbillyhell
    Member

    I respectfully but totally disagree with you. If you look at period Indy cars, the CRAFTSMANSHIP was there, of course. The cars these guys built in thier off time were much the same...amazing attention to detail during fabrication and assembly, but no where close to this amount of "stuff". I know maybe 50 guys that are professional race fabricators, and a few guys that were doing the sprint car/Indy thing way back when. Every single one of them, myself included is as minimalist as possible, no matter if we're building a car or decorating a house.

    The car simply has TOO MUCH stuff.
     
  19. Rolf
    Joined: Jul 23, 2002
    Posts: 1,835

    Rolf
    Member

    Nice workmanship, no question...

    I still thinks it looks like Kaptain Retro threw up, waaaaay to busy...but hey, this is AMERICA, land of choices :D
     
  20. Nimrod
    Joined: Dec 13, 2003
    Posts: 856

    Nimrod
    Member

    I didn't know that was a Moal car. I've always wanted to love his stuff, I think his Ideas are great....the sports/race car influences are what really turn me on. But there's just something wrong with everything I've seen from him, either proportion, or just too overdone...they come close to being perfect but always loose it somewere.
     
  21. repoguy
    Joined: Jul 27, 2002
    Posts: 2,085

    repoguy
    Member


    Did it start the war in Iraq too?

    C'mon dude. It's a car, not the anti-christ.

    With anything....cars, music, fashion, etc., what is "cutting edge" now will eventually be discovered and consumed by the masses and become status quo. We don't own traditional hot-rodding, we're just the ones who were fortunate enough to appreciate it before the rest of the flock arrived. I mean really, look at the pastel-monochrome eyesores that have been passing as hot rods for the last 2 decades & then look at traditional rods. Now that the "easter egg rod" trend has passed it's really only a matter of time before things come full circle.

    Back when I was at a Black Flag show in 84 I would have laughed (or maybe cried) if you'd suggested that someday we'd have Green Day & Blink 182.

    Rods of the more tradional style have been making regular appearances in mainstream publications for a while now, so basically it's already happening.

    As far as the car goes, I agree it may have a few too many doodads on it, but I like the grill & the overall look. I personally prefer hot rods that are a little less fancy & more "worn" looking, but different strokes for different folks.
     
  22. burger
    Joined: Sep 19, 2002
    Posts: 2,372

    burger
    Member

    woah!

    that coupe is c l e a n.

    same ideas as the roadster but polar opposites.

    a little chop and a little black paint and i'm in love!


    ed
     
  23. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 7,446

    A Boner
    Member

    Put it on a turntable, and add some angel hair.

    *******************************************************
     
  24. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 21,681

    Ryan
    ADMINISTRATOR
    Staff Member

    I'd like to drive the shit out of it, lose the rear-end in coming out of an apex, and back that fucker into the wall at about 120 mph.

    Seriously, I'd like to find that car sitting alone in a dark parking lot some night. I wouldn't steel the WHOLE car, but I might steel some parts! :)
     
  25. [​IMG]



    [​IMG]

    Shaved door hinges and handles, but exposed trunk latches?

    Beautiful sculpted roll pan, topped with a towel bar?

    I would like to know if there was an overall concept, or was it a "Hey, this would be cool, let's make one of those and put it on it."

    The '32 Ford roadster is so iconic that there are some things we expect to be on one and some things we expect to be always left off. If this were a different body style or make, our perceptions about the details being too much would go away.
     
  26. 32viper
    Joined: Jun 3, 2004
    Posts: 277

    32viper
    Member

    What he said.
     
  27. bobbleed
    Joined: May 11, 2001
    Posts: 3,117

    bobbleed
    Member
    from Awesome

    I diddn't know Orange County Choppers built Hot Rods?
     
  28. Aaron51chevy
    Joined: Jan 9, 2005
    Posts: 1,986

    Aaron51chevy
    Member

    It's too busy,
    too many louvers, too many gadgets, too much of a lot of stuff. I'll take a simple clean 32 any day over this. Great craftsmanship but your eye can't focus on anything easily, like a too complex pinstripe design, the great pinstripers can make an awesome design with simple lines and that is what is cool.
     
  29. oldspeed
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
    Posts: 897

    oldspeed
    Member
    from Upstate NY

    I agree with a lot of reponses saying the workmanship is perfect and so many neat ideas, but I don't care for the car, too much like an object to be viewed, but never driven????????
     
  30. 392_hemi
    Joined: Jun 16, 2004
    Posts: 1,736

    392_hemi
    Member

    Just more street rod crap, only in a different style. Kinda the same style as the Royce Glader's RPU. Should appeal to people like the idiot who paid $176k for a Boydster at Barrett-Jackson. Car has some nice pieces that could have been put to much better use.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.