I need to get a List or Web Site that will allow me to I.D. Carter AFB carbs. I have a pair of 3783S Carbs & need to find the Application & CFM to see if they will work on a Blown 300 cu. in. DeSoto Hemi or any of my Other Cars. Hope someone has a Full List of Carb I.D. Numbers ... Whats out there ?
Well 1200 CFM is a bit much for my DeSoto ... But may be OK for my 400 inch '60 Pontiac But Maybe it would be better to sell them as 409 carbs, They have a date code of D6 = April 1966
I've run across several 3783S carbs with date codes like yours that indicate them being an over the counter replacement. I think that they were very popular for hot rodders to buy for use on their hot rodded 283 or whatever.
Carter produced 505 different model AFB carburetors. A complete list is available, but it isn't cheap. I spent hundreds of hours of research compiling the list. For the most part, CFM ratings were not published for Carter AFB's; nor were they published on most carburetors designed for O.E. applications. Here is a list of those that were actually published. 3720 - 575 3721 - 575 4758 - 500 4759 - 625 4760 - 750 4761 - 500 4762 - 750 9400 - 400 9410 - 400 9500 - 500 9501 - 500 9510 - 500 9511 - 500 9625 - 625 9626 - 625 9627 - 625 9635 - 625 9636 - 625 9637 - 625 These are all genuine Carter AFB's (made by Carter). My list does not include the later copies. To identify MOST (not all) AFB's, use your favorite search engine, and search the following string: thecarburetorshop followed by the carb number. In the case for this thread: thecarburetorshop 3783 This will bring you to a page on our website. Now use the "find on this page" command in your browser (under the "edit" menu if you use I.E.) to take you to the exact application. There are approximately 80,000 entries on the website. Jon.
I have ratings on a few other AFB's from the factory documentation (not published); but have no intention of producing a list of this information. i will state the largest Carter AFB was the 3636s (Pontiac) which tested 939 CFM. Jon.
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5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="padding: 0cm;" valign="top"> We would NEVER even consider putting edelbrock junk in genuine Carter carburetors. Regards. --- On Thu, 11/25/10, 68barracuda @ THE H.A.M.B. <[email protected]> wrote: From: 68barracuda @ THE H.A.M.B. <[email protected]> Subject: AFB identification To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 3:32 AM This is a message from 68barracuda at THE H.A.M.B. ( http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/index.php ). The THE H.A.M.B. owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the email. To email 68barracuda, you can use this online form: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=110503 OR, by email: mailto:[email protected] This is the message: Hi, I have an carter AFB with electric choke with the following number stamped on the left hand flange vertical surface B8 9162 S Any information as to original application, CFM, and what rebuild kits - ie from Edelbrock can be used will be much appreciated Regards Fanie Gerber </td> </tr> </tbody></table> [FONT="] [/FONT]
BTW JON - the rest of us like to share.. so here goes Competiton series Aftermarket S/No Model Year Engine Cfm Comp 9263 Comp 9410 OE 400 Comp 9502 OEGM 500 Comp 9503 OEGM 500 Comp 9504 OEGM 500 Comp 9511 OEMopar 500 Comp 9605 OEGM 600 Comp 9606 OE Mopar 600 Comp 9626 OE Ford 625 Comp 9627 OEFord 625 Comp9635 OEGM 625 Comp 9636 OEMopar 625 Comp 9637 OEFord 625 Comp 9755 OEGM 750 9502 500 universal, chokeless 9503 500 '' , manual choke 9504 500 '' , electric choke, EGR 9605 600 GM, manual choke 9606 600 Chrysler, manual choke 9607 600 Ford, manual choke 9635 625 GM, electric choke, EGR 9636 625 Chrysler, electric choke, EGR 9637 625 Ford, electric choke, EGR 9638 625 GM, electric choke, EGR, "E-coat" 9755 750 GM, manual choke 9756 750 Chrysler, manual choke 9757 750 Ford, manual choke 9641 625 Universal Marine, Electric choke 9758 750 Universal Marine, Electric choke AMC S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 4354 AMC 66/68 290 4468 68 4583 68 4623 68 343 4663 4665 AMC 6046 AMC 68 MOPAR S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2797 300 1959 413 2798 300 1959 413LRAM 2797 300 1959 413LRAM 2903 300 1960 413LRAM 2927 300 1960 413 3108 Desoto 61 413 3131 Dodge 66 440 3134 Ch300 61 413 3251 Ch300 62 413 3256 Ch300 62 413 3258 Ch300 62 413LRAM 3259 Ch300 62 413RAM 3374 Police 61 383 3375 Police 61 383 3505 300J 63/64 413DQ 600 3611 Mopar 1964 426W 3613 Canada 64 383 3614 64 413 3615 64 413 3644 64 413 3855 Ch300 65 383 3856 Mopar 1965/66 383 " Mopar 64/65 413 600 3858 Mopar 65 413 600 3859 65 413/426 3860 65 413/426 3871 65 413 3980 Mopar 65/66 M273-B 600 4131 Mopar 66 4299 Mopar 66/67 383 4430 S/Bird 70 426H 600 4431 S/Bird 70 " 600 4428 AVS CorR/T 68 440 750 4432 S/Bird 70 "Auto 4638 AVS 69 383 600 4746 Mopar 426H DQ REAR 4758 Mopar 500 4761 Mopar 500 4970 Mopar 71 426H 500 4971 Mopar 426H DQ FNT S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2640 3258 Ford Cobra 289DQ 3259 Ford Cobra 289DQ CORVETTE S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 3269 Corvette 1962 K1? 600 3310 3460 Corvette 3461 Corvette 62/63/64 327 3629 3720 Corvette 1964/65 600 3721 Corvette 350 600 CHEV S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 3361 Chevy 62/63 Dual 409 3362 Chevy 62/63 Dual 409 3460 63 3461 " 63 327 3499 Chevy 63/64 409 3720 " 65 327 3783 61-65 409 3721 " 65 327A 525 3904 " 4027 Chevelle 66/67 6004615 4966 CADDY S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2479 57 2696 58 2815 59 2862 Cadillac 58 3352 " 62 390 3481 63 3656 64 3903 65 3904 65 3903 " 65 390/429 3906 66 4169 66 OLDSMOBILE S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 4295 Oldsmobile 71 455 BUICK S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2840 Buick 59 364 2982 3297 62 3503 63 3578 61/63 401 3633 64 3665 " 3633 " 3826 65 3921 65 4055 66 4053 Riviera 66 401 4331 67 3578 Buick 61/63 4053 Buick 63/66 4055 Buick 66 340 4453 Buick 66 401 PONTIAC S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2740 Pontiac 57/60 370 / 389 2767 " 58 370 2819 59/60 3123 " 58 370 " " 59/63 389 " " 59/63 421 3300 Pontiac 62 389 3326 Firebird 67 326 " GTO 64 " Tempest 64/67 326/389 " Pontiac 64/67 389/421/400 3651 Pontiac 57-67 3895 GTO 65 4242 Pontiac 67/69 389/400 4413 Poncho 400 67 7042 400 750 STUDEBAKER S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 3506 AvantiR1 625 3507 Stude 63/64 3588 " " 3725 " " 3508 3540 259/289 3589 " 3606 625 3726 " 3808 Avanti R2 304 625 3810 Avanti R3/R4 304DQ 625 3811 Avanti R3/R4 304DQ 625 UNKNOWNS S/No Model Year Engine Cfm 2506 2819 3131 3921 3647 4354 4762 750
68barracuda, FWIW and no disrespect to you as a new member, { welcome too BTW}, Jon, Carbking, is always eager to help and offer very valuable information to all of us. He is and has been a very valuable assett to the HAMB. I believe maybe something got lost in the worlds apart that we are, and no harm was meant. We are very traditional here, and some/most of the new or later model replacement items for our Hot Rods, tend to push our patience at times. Most of the new aftermarket replacements are totally against our ideals about our love of the good old days, and the quality and pride that came with owning and maintaining them. Thank you for listening, BDM
Hi Guys, I appreciate what you sre saying - but the fact remains - I asked politely for information and ALL that was wriiten in the reply was: "We would NEVER even consider putting edelbrock junk in genuine Carter carburetors. Regards." That is the sum total of the reply - from this I gather he is incredibly rude and not prepared to help a fellow enthusiast.
Any ideas what the original Compotition series 750 cfm Carters are worth? Here's a pic of the one I have. USA made mechanicle secondarys.
Hi guys - I have a set of old Carter AFB's and I can not find numbers anywhere to correspond with any other numbers. The ONLY numbers I have found on this are in 2 different locations on both Carbs. the numbers 1450 are stamped on bottom side of carbs under the Choke, then raised numbers 1485 directly on top of carb over Choke side, then on bowl the numbers are O - 1565 . all 4 venturi's have numbers as well. There are no more numbers on these but these are a set. Any help please ??? Thanks
I have two Carter AFB carburetors, 1977. A casting is: B2 3980 and the other is: B2 3980s (the other casting: VP 1859) out of that engine? Where can I find the kit review? thanks
68 barracuda, The other reason you dont put Edelbrock parts in an afb is they dont fit. A genuine carter afb is PHYSICALLY Smaller then an Eddy. The original competition series stuff is the same size however.
ID on 68 barracuda's unknowns...2506 is Pontiac '57 AT, 2819 is Pontiac '59 AT, 3131 is Plymouth '60 & '61 with power pak, 3921 is '65 Buick, 3647 is Pontiac 389 '63 & '64, 4354 is AMC '67 AT, 4762 is Carter Competition Series 750 cfm with (no choke) for dual quads Happy motoring, Buford