352 Tick....

I did a bunch of searching and couldnt find what i was looking for so if you know of a thread, post me a link....anyway...
I have a 60 ford with a stock 352/2bbl. it has what sounds like a lifter tick under acceleration on a hill or at almost 100 mph on the flat (2.90 gear, so not redline). hard acceleration from a light or on the freeway doesnt do it, only when climbing hills or at extremely high speeds...it doesnt even need to be heavy accel. on a hill. i have a mech. oil pressure gauge that says it is holding pressure when the noise is very apparent....is it lifters for sure? or some queer f.e. oil starve problem i should know about? thanks

and while im at it...is converting to selve adjusting brakes as simple as buying the right hardware kit? or do i need to make modifications to the backing plate? thanks again

Rob

 

I would guess a lifter, as that was the issue with mine, (new lifters and the noise is gone) although I noticed that one of the rocker arms had some heavy scoring on it when it was apart.

 

Thanks for the confidence there, groove....yours must have been hydraulic, anybody know if a 60 ford 352 is factory hydraulic or mechanical?

 

Also known for exhaust leaks but that would be more consistant.

 

They are hydrolic. I had one in my T-bird did the same freaking thing. I took off the intake and found that I had a bent push rod. I was also told never change the lifters with out changing the cam shaft also.

 

I think Its the other way around never change a cam with out putting new lifters in.

 

thanks a bunch guys. anybody know about that brake question?

 

try it both ways ,never mix old and new unless you are selling.

 

New lifters on old cam is OK. New cam on old lifters is not. The reason is that the lifter face becomes concave with age. Concave lifter face (used) on fresh new square cam = trouble.

 

This may be way off base but what is your timing set at? Could it be a bit too advanced?

 

My timing could be way the hell off...i havent touched the engine since i got the car...although i have run different fuels in it, i ran 87 a couple times, mostly 89. when i noticed this problem i bumped it up to 91 without a change.... thanks everyone...

 

You can eliminate the possibility of an exhaust tick with a 2 foot piece of fuel hose or 3/8" air hose. Hold one end up to your ear and fish the other end around the manifold gaskets and the donut gaskets. Have a buddy torque it up in gear a little. That will emulate a load on the engine. If you have an exhaust leak, you will find it when the end of the hose gets near the leak. FE Fords were famous for them.

If you need new hardware it might be worth it but the self adjusters are so unreliable that I don't think it's worth the effort or cost. It's a great idea but I personally have not seen them work as advertised in all my years in a brake shop. Theory is one thing. Real world experience is often something different. Your results may vary.

 

If your timing is very far off, 91 may not make a difference.

 

I have a 352 in my '65 3/4 ton truck. I bought a 390 to put into it after I shoot the 352. anybody want it, it runs?

 

Ya' know that makes alot more sense

 

Well, i tore it apart to put lifters in it...the lifters werent in bad shape, but the engine itself is total poo. it is coated in crusty black crap. it was difficult to get the internal parts clean enough to reassemble. some of the pushrods are worn to a point. i think i am going to dump it, it smokes like a pig (mucho blow by). it is so bad i wouldnt have even bothered putting it back together if it werent my daily. are all f.e.s the same, as far as a bolt in goes? or are some of them external balance or have different mount locations... and will the factory 2 barrel carb feed it? thanks
Rob

 

Doesnt anyone know? I found a rebuilt 64-67 390, will it drop in?

 

Yes it will fit. The only differences that i know about are 428s have a differently balanced flywheel. Beginning in 1965 There are extra bosses for motor mounts.65 and up dont have oil filler in manifold. 64 and older had gen. and old style starter and flywheel. Some early332and 352s had adjustable rocker arms. There were different lengths of pushrods available to adjust lifters. FE fords are my favorite ford engine. My dad had a 66 he bought new the engine lasted 330 thousand miles never even had the valve covers off. All the 55and 56 fords i had i pulled the Yblock boat achors and installed 352 and 390s.Got better fuel economy and were a lot faster. OldWolf

 

You kick ass. thank you very much....i was hoping someone would come through with this info as i hope to source and replace the engine before this weekend (March Meet!!)

 

If you use the original trans you will have to use the original flywheel,when the starter design was changed in 65 the flywheels were changed too.

 

i havent looked at it (its dark now), does the starter bolt to the transmission? what i mean is, could i get the later model engine, flexplate, and starter and make it work? or would a late model starter matched to the flexplate not bolt up? thanks.
rob