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History HELP ID A FORD 1940-1947

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by IcyQueen, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    HOWDY EVERYONE I NEED HELP ID A FORD TRUCK I HAVE LOTS OF NUMBERS.
     
  2. hotrod1948
    Joined: Jan 17, 2011
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    hotrod1948
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    from Milton, WI

    I guess 47, did I win?
     
  3. Are you sure it's a Ford and not a White?
     
  4. 41hemi
    Joined: Jul 2, 2007
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  5. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    Atwater Mike
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    Lay some o' those numbers on us, Queen...and their location.

    Also, if the glove box door is still there, look on the inside (back) of the door. There is a plate there with all the info.
    (Hey! Three 'theres', and all were necessary!)
     
  6. In other words, we'd like to help but we need pictures. Frame numbers may help but as far as I know, there ain't no body numbers. Tim
     
  7. By the way, welcome to the hamb and you should consider doing an intro....instructions on home page.
     
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  8. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    Sorry but no I need help. I know it is between 1940- 1947 ford truck and I have number like BB186527703Y on bell housing, 21C motor mount, 59A-B motor head, 59with V above it on engine block where transmit mounts, B17474857 rear end axle
     
  9. What color is it?

    Maybe you can sort this out:

    General Information
    The integral cast-in bell housing continued all the way through 1948 (except for the Ford trucks, which received in 1948 the newer '49-53 style engine with separate bell housing). All engines during this period had front, block-mounted water pumps (with wide belt pulleys), and twenty-four stud heads with center-located water hose outlets. Original cylinder heads for 1938 to 1942 were generally marked with "81A" for Ford or Mercury engines thru 1941; "81T" for truck engines from 1938 to 1942; "41T" heads were sold for 85/90hp trucks built from 1938 to 1942; "99T" for 100hp Ford Truck and Mercury in 1939 to 1941; and "29A" for Mercury in 1942. Heads marked "59-A" or "59AB" were used on all 90/100 hp (Ford & Mercury) engines from 1946 through 1948. The 59AB heads were sometimes used on earlier blocks in replacement rebuilds. You can find the Ford part numbers (basic 6049 and 6050 number with prefixes and suffixes) in the face of the heads and sometimes on the side edge of the head next to the intake manifold.
    Additional information
    The postwar cylinder blocks were also marked "59" (or "59A" or "59L" or "59X" or "59Y" or "59Z") with raised letters cast into the top of the bell housing part of the block. The Canadian version had a "C59" cast into the same area. Another block assembly (the "41A" style) was used to replace the "81A" style cylinder blocks, which were all the 85/90hp engines with 3.0625" bore. The 1938 to 1940 blocks had four small "freeze plugs" (2 each side) in the oil pan mounting surface. The 1941 (except for a short carryover) and later blocks did not have the freeze plugs. These can be noted from outside an assembled engine by the slight "bumps" in the side of the block casting, right at the oil pan mounting surface. In mid 1938 Ford modified the engine for larger diameter main bearings. For complete crankshaft bearing specs CLICK HERE. The original engines from mid 1941 to final 1942 production (when WWII ended auto production) had a raised intake manifold deck surface. Prior to these engines, the entire manifold deck surface was machined flat, right out to the edge of the cylinder deck. The postwar engines seem to have returned to the practice of machining the intake deck all flat again. The foundry would also place what were probably "lot" or "production" numbers in the castings on all blocks. These were usually a small group of letters and numbers cast on the top of the bell housing....right next to the vertical surface of the back of the block. Unfortunately, any records of these numbers are long gone and they provide no clues as to the particulars of any engines.
     
  10. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    I have pictures but they are of body and frame everything has been taken off to find numbers. It has been sitting in field last tagged in 1963 we think.
     
  11. Instead of telling us that you have pix, why not try posting them instead
    You know, pictures...............a thousand words......etc.
    None of those numbers mean squat. Few old Fords still have their original engines, transmissions, and so on. Interchange was too easy
     
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  12. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    Here are some of the pictures
     

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  13. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    Budget36
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    '42 to '47
    Look where the steering box mounts, get a wire brush and scrub the top of the frame in that area, the s/n there will/should narrow down the year.
     
  14. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    It was my landlords dad's truck and as far as we know it is all original but can't find title. DMV can't find it cause they drop out of system after so long of not being pay
     
  15. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    Front frame rail number Starts with 71
     
  16. Atwater Mike
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    '42-'47 pickups all have semi elliptic springs in front? ('41 pickups were the last with transverse leaf?)
    Also: All '42-'47 had jailbar grille?
     
  17. Icy Queen.....Go do an Introduction...your profile page is not very informative..
     
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  18. its a '47 this is a typical beginning for a '47 Ford truck 71GA
     
  19. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    here you go
     

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  20. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    Yes I am sure it is a ford not a white.
     
  21. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    BB186527703Y on bell housing, 21C motor mount, 59A-B motor head, 59with V above it on engine block where transmit mounts, B17474857 rear end axle
     
  22. tobias1954
    Joined: Feb 13, 2011
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    tobias1954
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    from Norway

    The last picture shows the chassis# and if it starts with 71GY as it seems, the truck should be a '47 one ton with a six cylinder engine. The V8 should have the 799Y prefix.
     
  23. Budget36
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    Yes, the '42-47 were like the 48-up F1's, in fact the frames were pretty much the same.
    Also yes, the '47-47's had the "jailbar" grill/front end.
     
  24. Budget36
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    Budget36
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    I think you have it there, also the side view in the last set of pics show the short running boards.
     
  25. IcyQueen
    Joined: Sep 1, 2015
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    IcyQueen

    I known it is a flathead v8. Chassis # is 71CY from what I can see.
     
  26. volvobrynk
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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    volvobrynk
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    from Denmark

    We see that too! But born six, swapped to a Flathead.
    Nice and solid truck!

    The joke about the White,referees to the blank spot in your post that should have been a pic of your nice project!

    Do you have any planes? Does it turn?
    I like it. Blast the frame and axels, new brakes and a rebuild Flathead. Scuffed the body and paint with tractor paint. And you have a damn fine truck. That will work hard and give so much pleasure!

    Good luck and keep us posted!

    Do an intro and expect some weirdo humor, great laughs and a the best tech anywhere!
     
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  27. Doesn't matter what it originally came with unless you are doing a resto the ford barn is a good place for resto information. You can see what you got to work with and from there you decide what it is going to take to make it right. Even a ton truck can be driven but if you are interested in making it more useful and don't live on a farm then you can always switch the ton stuff out for half ton stuff.

    Nice thing is that it is a jail bar, those are pretty dear to some of us.
     
  28. Model T1
    Joined: May 11, 2012
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    Model T1
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    Well now, you were politely asked to go do an introduction and yet all you do is jabber here about numbers.
    Maybe the others talk to strangers but don't come in my garage until I find out who you are and what you like besides this unknown vehicle. All we know is you have a childish avatar and an feminine user name.
     
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  29. Atwater Mike
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    Atwater Mike
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    Wow...Lighten up, T1. Card 'em at the door?
     
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  30. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
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    Hnstray
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    from Quincy, IL

    Only in Georgia............:D
     
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