Distric Attorney/ Code Enforcement issues with your cars?

did you buy the Jalopy Journal from Ryan and the go and change the rules?

 

While I am sure that this thread will get closed, I believe the original problem had to do with some H.A.M.B. friendly cars and a storage issue, and the storage issue led to some discussion of politics, which is inevitable.

 

If the "powers that be" are green conscious, they probably want to prevent cars from leaking oil and gas into the earth. On the other hand, it's extremely anti-green to lay down impervious surfaces. Your gravel parking area is alot more environmentally friendly than a blacktop lot.

You've got to find out their motives if you're going to challenge this. If you've already been cited, then request a hearing. Get youself a lawyer that knows land-use issues.

 

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1. No profanity in subject lines
2. No political/religious/racial posts
3. No Porn.

The rules are extremely easy to follow. You just have to want to follow them.

 

Right on, AJ. There is simply no way to avoid politics in anything we do. Why? Because politicians have injected themselves, with our 'approval', into our daily lives and, very soon I'm afraid, our personal lives.

If you don't like being treated like a 4-yr old who can't/won't pick his toys and put them away, then your only option is to vote with your feet.

Right now property is cheap, come on up, I'll show ya around.


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I used to live in LaHabra cal. orange co.. they used to get a little pissy about non-op cars.. loved the beach,,, big bear,, and all that junk,, but there is way too many people... moved to AZ. 10 years ago,, found out that i love driving,, and riding my motorcycles more than i like sitting on freeways..I never new the thrill of just riding for over 100 miles or more till you have to put your feet on the ground at a stop sign... projects in your yard,, with no hassels... of course,, on the down side,, summer gets over 117 deg. dry rot tires, need a/c in your rides ect... winter mornings 37deg. but it's all good....my nearest nieghbor is 1/4 mi away... quite a culture shock from so. cal.. nearest fast food loint or gas, 9 miles away..can't stand going to my family's house anymore, tooo many people...now my air compressor and sterio can blast ay 3 am,, no one cares..

 

Dude, you live in another country! This does not concern you. Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!

 

You think these problems only affect the U.S.? Your elitist attitude doesn't change the facts. Let's not get into a Canada U.S. conversation/argument, I'm outnumbered 10 to 1.

 

Yep just started doing the same here in Denver. Had my stuff parked neatly in the backyard with a fence blocking street view. Property is 1/3 acre and basically double long with the cars on the back half. Got cited for "Repairing and dismantling vehicles" and vehicles not parked on "approved" surface. Ok so I moved the vehicles onto a concrete pad that held four of them, got cited again...this time for having "Inoperable vehicles" Had no choice but to move them to offsite storage. They would only give me 10 days at a time as I had asked for 60 days to do the work. I was cutting apart one and watched as a helicopter came straight down the property lengthwise flying low with a bright light on the bottom and a camera mounted on the front. I wanted to give them the one finger salute but knew things would only get worse if I did.

I always thought that what can't be seen is fine, not any more. Next door neighbor refused the inspector access to his backyard and so the inspector brought in the cops, three of them escorted the inspector into the backyard.

All I can say is watch out if you live in denver the code guys are either looking for revenue or trying to keep from having their department go away due to budget cuts in a bad economy.

 

Sounds like you want to let everybody know just how many old Chevy's you have. What's "pead" gravel? Pea gravel that's been urinated on for decades? Seriously, if all you need to to do is improve the lot, sell one of those tri fives and blacktop it. I have lots of stuff, but I try to keep things tidy, the view from the neighbors uncluttered. It's easier to try to get along.

 

I recently discovered that my neighbor has "Army Surplus Camo" hanging between some trees with several cars underneath! Honestly it looked like a thick brush clump!

Awesome idea and the only way a person can see anything is if they are trespassing... and at that point the trespasser can be prosecuted!

 

A while back I lived in Houston where the sub division had deed restrictions. After receiving about a dozen letters about my trailer, they fined me and threatened to sue me in court. I talked to a lawyer and he said I was about to go to court and lose. They are going to say they tried to get you to go along and YOU forced them to sue you. He advised to make peace with them. I called their lawyer and begged forgivness. But I told their lawyer that my lawyer said as long as the trailer was hitched to my truck in the street, there was nothing they could do.
His reply "TRY ME, IF I HEAR OF YOU DRIVING DOWN THE STREET TOWING A TRAILER I WILL SUE YOU", in other words, we are going to win, regardless. I moved.

 

Great idea. I wonder if I could get some army surplus trees to go with the camo.

 

Brian beat me to what I was wondering. If you love you Chevies to the point of owning a whole fleet of them, you should have the finincial resources to put some black top or cement down and put some car covers over them.
Of course you will probably need a permit to do that, then City Hall will say that you are covering too much ground and the water runoff will be a problem. Tryinf to solve one issue will usually open up others IF they just want to get you to clear the property.

BBTW...What is the zoning on this piece of property?

 

In the area (slo,ca) there's a guy that has just been sentanced to JAIL for letting homeless people live on his ranch!!
the yuppy nighbors that built McMansions a mile away dont like his cars and trucks parked on his ranch and after trying to get him on anything they got him on housing not up to code,he took jail time instead of probation so the inspectors cant show up whenever they feel like it

 

I resemble that!

 

The new GREEN is the old RED

 

I love these threads.

 

Choppers flying over your house to spot old cars is now a thing of the past..Most cities, counties and other government organizations subscribe to Google and other intrusive satelite services that can read the lic. plate nember of your car from space while sitting at their desk. Google your address and you will see an image that is not as close up as what they can see with paid services.
Cementing or paving the area you park your cars on will require a permit which when completed will have the tax collector increasing your property tax. They have you by the testicles and will squeeze tighter till you give in..Next stop..The Judge....

 

I am building a 44x29 foot addition onto my house and I didn't even have to get a building permit. I would have a hard time listening to someone who told me what I had to do in my own yard.....

Cornbinder, I live 10 miles from you and have 3 cars sitting out in the yard with no plates. I'd move to Cisco if I were you. ha ha ha

 

The DA Officer who issued the citing in person said, "The cars in the back have to be on cement" Coulda Shoulda Woulda, I wish I said "they were" to evoke a response. But I know they've seen 'em from the ghetto bird flying over. I flip em off EVERY time!

 

I would never pay them for a permit so they can charge me more in the end!
Pea gravel also lets the oil drain down . We've spent six hundred dollars here lately in pavers, cement & grass. It's not the money. It's that they cant see them from the street, and they continue(this is round three) to stir the pot!

 

Well you could if you got your definitions correct.

 

My ex-FIL used to build "sheds" on skids and use them to store things out of site. With them on skids and not permanent structures, he wasn't taxed on the sq footage, and occasionally dragged them to another area to show they are "mobile". The bigger things he put in old trailers (40ft tractor type) and dug them in to make them ground level. Kept the axles and tires on them in case someone came around looking.
Just passing along a few out-of-the-box solutions.

 

Those code enforcement people in the I.E. are savages they are there to produce revenue through fines & taking peoples property. They do, & lots of it. I have had to help a couple of people out of jams with them. It wasn't pretty to say the least. Once they have your number you are pretty much screwed. Plenty of out of work cement finishers out there right now. Call one! The more times code enforcement comes out the more crap they find to ding you on!

 

Think like Smokey Yunick......... Get a rule book, then bend it.

Where I live you can build a 10X12 (maximum) patio/cabana and/or storage building (including concrete floor) without a permit. It doesn't say that you can't have two buildings... (think connected). Also doesn't say that you have to build the actual building once you have the concrete. That gives you a 12X20 or 10X24 slab, perfect size for a car.

When living in SoCal, I wanted a 28X36 garage at the back of my 1 acre lot that had an existing home with a 2 car attached garage. San Diego county would approve it but my community association woudn't. Their ruling dictated the garage "must be attached to the existing dwelling, with the garage doors not facing the street"....

That would've turned my place into an added-on-to-looking-abortion.

I was a builder in those days so I got my crew together, poured the slab on Friday and by Sunday night I had a finished garage including paint, roofing and doors. I built it without obtaining a building permit. Couple weeks later I get a nasty letter from the community association and they notify the county.

The "as built" building permit cost me double. The community association's fine was $500 and I built a covered walkway attaching the garage to the house to conform to their "attached garage" rules. I couldn't have done this job with lawyers for quadruple what the fines cost.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than to get permission.


The post about the camo netting made me think of Cheech and Chong where they had a weed farm in the back yard. It had a tarp covering it that looked like a swimming pool from the air.

 

A bit OT but was curious about all the "cement" talked about.
In NZ cement is a dry powder.
We use it to make "Concrete" to park cars on....

 

J.Fishbeck... i have room to store, you transport to Iowa... yup no joke!

 

Same here in Wisconsin... cement is an ingredient for which to make concrete.

That's like people calling a cake... Flour...!

If you don't mind the look of shipping containers... they're not considered permanent and hide everything but themselves!

 

I'm not to far from you in LA county, they are messing with me at my house.

No shipping containers allowed..that would be too easy for you to hide the cars.

The inspector lady told me I could put cars in sheds, as long as they were not over 120 square feet. I can put my parts in them too. They must be away from the property line by 5 or 6 feet, and 6 feet apart, not connected.

you could pop the front clips off some of the inop cars and put them in a shed. you get 7X17..most cars will fit in there.

She did not specify as to what the construction materials should be, etc. You could probably build a suitable box for a car for about $200 or less if you already have some materials. Around here, you can get used garage doors for $15 ea, cut them to size, paint them, and youre done.

if any run, or are close to running, get them operational.

It can be done.